RE3 Hospital and RE3R Hospital: do they co-exist?

[SilentResident]

I loved the original Racoon Police Department (RPD)'s building layout in the Original RE2 and Original RE3 games, and I am glad Capcom kept the building's layout unchanged in the Remakes of the same games.

I am not sure however if the same can be said about the Hospital (or Hospitals). In the RE3 Remake, we visit a modern hospital founded by the Spencer Foundation, from which it took its name: the Spencer Memorial Hospital (SMH).

In the Original RE3 however, the Hospital we visited was different: the Raccoon General Hospital (RGH), a rather old building but with a very different but memorable layout, making it a fan-favorite place (who can forget the elevator and such!)

I am wondering and worried... What if Capcom simply erased the Raccoon General Hospital and re-created it as the Spencer Memorial Hospital? I hope this isn't the case here because the RGH was a place visited in multiple RE games (besides RE3, also in REOutbreak File #1) so it is important part of RE's history.

Do you think the RE3's RGH and RE3R's SMH co-exist or the one replaces the other?

[2D神]

Capcom already mess up the lore so why even bother now.

[SilentResident]

Originally posted by 2D神:

Capcom already mess up the lore so why even bother now.

Capcom will have to answer for alot. They can't simply erase locations we remember from our childhood times (if this is the case here). I mean, they "can", just it is so unfair.

[Greb]

I doubt they co-exist. There's now a secret underground laboratory underneath it now, because Umbrella needed a third one for some reason. You can safely assume it has been retconned and replaced. I suppose it makes more sense that some random hot-shot biologist working for Umbrella could make a vaccine for the cure instead of a massively overwhelmed and overworked random hospital by some no-name doctors, I suppose.

Unless I'm forgetting something. I guess there was Umbrella involvement in the old hospital too considering Hunter Gamma types were stored there. Gah, I don't know anymore lol. It was on Nikolai's hit-list for removing evidence so I guess it was owned or at least used by Umbrella, yeah.

Originally posted by 2D神:

Capcom already mess up the lore so why even bother now.

This, pretty much. Anything goes at this point. They could change Code Veronica X so it's Chris and Jill without Claire in sight if they wanted to. Maybe they will.

[Lynfinity]

I dont mind either way, tho I like SMH much more. It's an actual location now, unlike hospital in the original game where there are like 4-5 rooms to explore and thats it (roughly speaking)

[Greb]

Originally posted by Father Servo:

I dont mind either way, tho I like SMH much more. It's an actual location now, unlike hospital in the original game where there are like 4-5 rooms to explore and thats it (roughly speaking)

It got some love in Outbreak, at least.

[SilentResident]

Originally posted by Greb:

I doubt they co-exist. There's now a secret underground laboratory underneath it now, because Umbrella needed a third one for some reason. You can safely assume it has been retconned and replaced. I suppose it makes more sense that some random hot-shot biologist working for Umbrella could make a vaccine for the cure instead of a massively overwhelmed and overworked random hospital by some no-name doctors, I suppose.

Unless I'm forgetting something. I guess there was Umbrella involvement in the old hospital too considering Hunter Gamma types were stored there. Gah, I don't know anymore lol. It was on Nikolai's hit-list for removing evidence so I guess it was owned or at least used by Umbrella, yeah.

Originally posted by 2D神:

Capcom already mess up the lore so why even bother now.

This, pretty much. Anything goes at this point. They could change Code Veronica X so it's Chris and Jill without Claire in sight if they wanted to. Maybe they will.

You know, I have been thinking the fact that the Raccoon General Hospital is (was) adjacent to the Raccoon Park. Since we don't visit the Raccoon Park in RE3Remake, I have been thinking, what if the Park and the old Hospital still exist? We didn't witness a Raccoon Park of any sort next to the Spencer Memorial Hospital. Although I admit, looking through Spencer Memorial Hospital Lobby's windows, one can see some bushes and trees and lights, in what they resemble a park if not a garden...

[SilentResident]

Originally posted by Greb:

Originally posted by Father Servo:

I dont mind either way, tho I like SMH much more. It's an actual location now, unlike hospital in the original game where there are like 4-5 rooms to explore and thats it (roughly speaking)

It got some love in Outbreak, at least.

A much-needed love! I admit, I kinda miss the old CAPCOM which respected the landmark locations of Raccoon City.

[Greb]

I looked at the wall map for Raccoon City featured in Jills Apartment and other locations, some park looking areas clearly exist.

Raccoon City is an interesting location that even with 100,000 population has like, a nuclear reactor (probably retconned) a subway system, a tram system (probably retconned) and a big zoo plus other weird things, so it having two hospitals probably isn't too much of a stretch.

Don't forget the abandoned hospital in the Arklay mountains somewhere too, if Outbreak is still canon in some way.

Spencer Memorial Hospital makes me think of those exclusive private clinics you get for people on a higher pay grade. It's small enough that it's barely a fully functional hospital too. So the general hospital that is much bigger and likely serving most of the town probably does exist, and Spencer Memorial is just for big wigs like Brian Irons and Mayor Warren, etc.

Maybe anyway. It would be less likely for someone to accidentally discover their super secret lab whose entrance is in the reception area for some reason, if it was a more exclusive hospital, right?

[2D神]

Originally posted by Greb:

I looked at the wall map for Raccoon City featured in Jills Apartment and other locations, some park looking areas clearly exist.

Raccoon City is an interesting location that even with 100,000 population has like, a nuclear reactor (probably retconned) a subway system, a tram system (probably retconned) and a big zoo plus other weird things, so it having two hospitals probably isn't too much of a stretch.

Don't forget the abandoned hospital in the Arklay mountains somewhere too, if Outbreak is still canon in some way.

Spencer Memorial Hospital makes me think of those exclusive private clinics you get for people on a higher pay grade. It's small enough that it's barely a fully functional hospital too. So the general hospital that is much bigger and likely serving most of the town probably does exist, and Spencer Memorial is just for big wigs like Brian Irons and Mayor Warren, etc.

Maybe anyway. It would be less likely for someone to accidentally discover their super secret lab whose entrance is in the reception area for some reason, if it was a more exclusive hospital, right?

That bugged me when I notice it. Why would the underground passage be so direct.

[Coffee Addict]

hate to be debbie downer but the RPD's layout from the original RE2 is not the same as it is in RE2R


unless that is what you was saying in your original post and i am misreading it

[SilentResident]

Originally posted by Father Servo:

I dont mind either way, tho I like SMH much more. It's an actual location now, unlike hospital in the original game where there are like 4-5 rooms to explore and thats it (roughly speaking)

Nor do I mind that there is the Spencer Memorial Hospital in the game. I quite liked it! Just I hope the new hospital is an ADDITION to the lore of the series, not a replacement to the lore. If the latter is the case here, that would have been quite sad. When lore gets expanded and enriched, it can only make me a happier fan of the series.

[Morbis]

Originally posted by 2D神:

Originally posted by Greb:

I looked at the wall map for Raccoon City featured in Jills Apartment and other locations, some park looking areas clearly exist.

Raccoon City is an interesting location that even with 100,000 population has like, a nuclear reactor (probably retconned) a subway system, a tram system (probably retconned) and a big zoo plus other weird things, so it having two hospitals probably isn't too much of a stretch.

Don't forget the abandoned hospital in the Arklay mountains somewhere too, if Outbreak is still canon in some way.

Spencer Memorial Hospital makes me think of those exclusive private clinics you get for people on a higher pay grade. It's small enough that it's barely a fully functional hospital too. So the general hospital that is much bigger and likely serving most of the town probably does exist, and Spencer Memorial is just for big wigs like Brian Irons and Mayor Warren, etc.

Maybe anyway. It would be less likely for someone to accidentally discover their super secret lab whose entrance is in the reception area for some reason, if it was a more exclusive hospital, right?

That bugged me when I notice it. Why would the underground passage be so direct.

Even the devs realized how ridiculous it was that they actually had a note about it.

[SilentResident]

Originally posted by Annie:

hate to be debbie downer but the RPD's layout from the original RE2 is not the same as it is in RE2R


unless that is what you was saying in your original post and i am misreading it

Oh! Really? My bad then. But I sure do remember the Dark Room, the West Office Room, the East and West Wings, the Waiting Room, the Main Hall, the Garage, the Hallway where the Helicopter crashes, etc all being the same both in Original games and their Remakes. Strange.

[SilentResident]

Originally posted by Greb:

I looked at the wall map for Raccoon City featured in Jills Apartment and other locations, some park looking areas clearly exist.

Raccoon City is an interesting location that even with 100,000 population has like, a nuclear reactor (probably retconned) a subway system, a tram system (probably retconned) and a big zoo plus other weird things, so it having two hospitals probably isn't too much of a stretch.

Don't forget the abandoned hospital in the Arklay mountains somewhere too, if Outbreak is still canon in some way.

Spencer Memorial Hospital makes me think of those exclusive private clinics you get for people on a higher pay grade. It's small enough that it's barely a fully functional hospital too. So the general hospital that is much bigger and likely serving most of the town probably does exist, and Spencer Memorial is just for big wigs like Brian Irons and Mayor Warren, etc.

Maybe anyway. It would be less likely for someone to accidentally discover their super secret lab whose entrance is in the reception area for some reason, if it was a more exclusive hospital, right?

I like that. I hope so :-)

[Coffee Addict]

Originally posted by SilentResident:

Originally posted by Annie:

hate to be debbie downer but the RPD's layout from the original RE2 is not the same as it is in RE2R


unless that is what you was saying in your original post and i am misreading it

Oh! Really? My bad then. But I sure do remember the Dark Room, the West Office Room, the East and West Wings, the Waiting Room, the Main Hall, the Garage, the Hallway where the Helicopter crashes, etc all being the same both in Original games and their Remakes. Strange.

alot of rooms are the same as the original but some are different, the entire hallway near the main office is gone so is the stairs leading to the basement (the basement area is in RE2R though its design is different then in the original) the hallway leading past the operations room that used to lead to the hallway with the darkroom is gone and has been replaced with the window in the operations rooms the backroom with the fireplace is also gone. the first hallway we go into at the beginning that leads to the officer that gets sliced inhalf used to lead to the interogation rooms but now that area has been moved to the other side of the station and can only be accessed via stairs leading from the chiefs office the original hallway on the 2nd floor leading to the stars office where the statue puzzle used to be is blocked off now to get to the stars office you gotta blow a hole in the bathroom wall, the stars office is still connect to the library though the lounge hallway was removed (the hallway you first meet sherry in) the 3rd floor is almost the same, it was accesed via the library and it went to the clocktower although in the remake now hallway also connects you to the other side of the policde department (the entire east area of the 3rd floor doesnt exist in the original)


the rest of the RPD though is still the same as it was in the original with the one exception that the statue puzzle was near the main door and not up the stairs and the puzzle only required the unicorn medal istead of 3 medals and used to give you a key instead of taking you underground