Crash to Desktop is HORRIBLE

[djtiger76]

I can be doing absolutely nothing but watching the progress, not moving the mouse or anything. CTD. There is no rhyme or reason. Can't get through 10 minutes without a CTD. Anyone have any solutions. This is almost unplayable at this rate.

[JP]

Originally posted by enderbeta:

Originally posted by JP:

I am running stock speeds on my AMD CPU and the game worked 72 hours ago and now won't load past starting screen without a CTD.

My 5950X and 5800X3D machines are not crashing. You might also check your memory speeds and check your event viewer for clues to diagnose your hardware issue. One other thing you could try is validating your files through steam. Maybe something got corrupted.

Edit: what is your cpu and gpu temperature when starting the game?

Ryzen 3800x CPU: 54C
NVIDIA 2080 Super GPU: 55C

I have no hardware issues, all other games run fine.

[Fortuna]

i9 14900, RTX 4090, 64 gb ram.
Latest BIOS.
No mods.
ONLY game that crashes.

Brand new computer.
Water cooling on CPU and GPU, very good temps.

ONLY THIS GAME!

[xDarkSagex]

so there is a problem with 13900k and 14900k cpu's in unity games. Try using intel extreme tuning utility and lowering the performance core ratio from 55x to 53x. its the solution i found from googling and its been working for me, https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/is-your-intel-core-i9-13900k-crashing-in-games-your-motherboard-bios-settings-may-be-to-blame-other-high-end-intel-cpus-also-affected

[enderbeta]

Originally posted by JP:

Originally posted by enderbeta:

My 5950X and 5800X3D machines are not crashing. You might also check your memory speeds and check your event viewer for clues to diagnose your hardware issue. One other thing you could try is validating your files through steam. Maybe something got corrupted.

Edit: what is your cpu and gpu temperature when starting the game?

Ryzen 3800x CPU: 54C
NVIDIA 2080 Super GPU: 55C

I have no hardware issues, all other games run fine.

More people would be having issues if it was the game. Try verifying your files. The people here with Intel processors are having hardware issues because of a critical hardware flaw.

[mosshunt]

5800x, this game has not crashed once for me since the first update after release. It CTD'd twice before that update for me.

[[PigzTV]Pigz]

I really love when people say it's your hardware, no it's the game I have a new machine "feb 24", and playing the tutorial at the end sewage it crashed. no save, no crashed report, or anything, this is the first time and only time it's happened, and in the last month alone I've played on here 80+ demos totalling over 100GB.

[Fortuna]

Originally posted by PigzTVPigz:

I really love when people say it's your hardware, no it's the game I have a new machine "feb 24", and playing the tutorial at the end sewage it crashed. no save, no crashed report, or anything, this is the first time and only time it's happened, and in the last month alone I've played on here 80+ demos totalling over 100GB.

Ofcourse its the game.
Why would you make a game not possible running on 13-14 intel series?
Back to draw board.

[enderbeta]

Originally posted by PigzTVPigz:

I really love when people say it's your hardware, no it's the game I have a new machine "feb 24", and playing the tutorial at the end sewage it crashed. no save, no crashed report, or anything, this is the first time and only time it's happened, and in the last month alone I've played on here 80+ demos totalling over 100GB.

If it was the hardware we would know just like the 13/14 gen k series processors. I have left the simulation running this weekend and it has close to 30 hours of run time with zero issues. If there was a significant flaw the game would have crashed. Thanks for the points though.

[enderbeta]

Originally posted by Fortuna:

Originally posted by PigzTVPigz:

I really love when people say it's your hardware, no it's the game I have a new machine "feb 24", and playing the tutorial at the end sewage it crashed. no save, no crashed report, or anything, this is the first time and only time it's happened, and in the last month alone I've played on here 80+ demos totalling over 100GB.

Ofcourse its the game.
Why would you make a game not possible running on 13-14 intel series?
Back to draw board.

It's not the developers fault that Intel cranked the power limits so hard they burnt up their product line trying to keep up. Whats more they did it in a way where they can say it is the motherboard manufacturers fault. https://www.pcguide.com/news/we-cant-recommend-intel-cpus-right-now-gamers-nexus-investigates-13th-and-14th-gen-instability/

[Major Kudos™]

I am the lucky one I guess.
One 14900k and one 12900k running 24/7 and only ONE game in my Steam account, you guessed it CS2.

The 14900k is playing online currently and the 12900k is currently running CS2 on Steam offline. Occasionally for one reason or another I swap which one goes online.

The 14900k is in an ASROK Taichi MoBo and the 12900k is in an MSI Tomahawk.

I don't believe in overclocking so both have been set to Intel recommended settings since inception.

There is absolutely no way CS2 has ever caused a crash that I could blame on the game.

So, my thought is as bad and slow and unpredictable the game is it hasn't caused repeated crashes in those two procs or even the previous two i5's for that matter.

So in my opinion (for what it's worth) the crash problem discussed here does not reside in the hardware OR the game.

So what is left to look at?

Edit: but given the OP has never replied or even discussed it's hardware or the game condition the joke is on us all.

[john.glossop]

Originally posted by JP:

Originally posted by enderbeta:

Check your overclock and or undervolting settings. It's not the game.

I am running stock speeds on my AMD CPU and the game worked 72 hours ago and now won't load past starting screen without a CTD.

Check the Mods. I get the occasional CTD, and they are invariably caused by a "Rogue Mod" I'm flogging a dead horse, but IMO, Skyve is the most reliable way to find out if you are harbouring a flaky Mod.
So, run in Vanilla, and if it still crashes, then you may have a hardware problem. If it works fine, then check out what's been identified as a "crasher".
If you can't identify which one is causing the problem by doing this, just remember, currently about 30% of all Mods have identified problems, so start a new Playset, and at first, load only, say, 20% of the mods that you currently use. If all is OK, load a different 20%, and so on, until you've "test loaded" all of your Mods. If your game crashes with any of the loads, you probably have a problem in one or more mods. I think you can see where I'm going with this, so get hunting.
Good luck, and if the ALL come up clean, they weren't the problem

[enderbeta]

Originally posted by Major Kudos™:

I am the lucky one I guess.
One 14900k and one 12900k running 24/7 and only ONE game in my Steam account, you guessed it CS2.

The 14900k is playing online currently and the 12900k is currently running CS2 on Steam offline. Occasionally for one reason or another I swap which one goes online.

The 14900k is in an ASROK Taichi MoBo and the 12900k is in an MSI Tomahawk.

I don't believe in overclocking so both have been set to Intel recommended settings since inception.

There is absolutely no way CS2 has ever caused a crash that I could blame on the game.

So, my thought is as bad and slow and unpredictable the game is it hasn't caused repeated crashes in those two procs or even the previous two i5's for that matter.

So in my opinion (for what it's worth) the crash problem discussed here does not reside in the hardware OR the game.

So what is left to look at?

Edit: but given the OP has never replied or even discussed it's hardware or the game condition the joke is on us all.

I believe the issues are related to default settings damaging the processor over time. If you went in day 1 on your first boot and turned those settings to Intel defaults and disabled the default overclocking then in theory you should hopefully be ok.

The main rule when it comes to overclocking is keep the voltage as low as possible and the temps below a certain threshold. For me I don't like the processors to go above 80C. I go in and adjust the thermal limits to 80C so the thermal throttling starts at that point. While a CPU can function at 90C or whatever high limit a manufacturer lists I wouldn't trust the CPU to operate at that high level for long amounts of time without degradation.

In your case double check that the voltage isn't going bananas and keep the temperatures under at least 85C and the processor should in theory last far longer than it is really useful to operate outside of nostalgia.

I don't think the 12 gen i9 is included in the list of hardware that has the issues. I know it is basically the same processor but I don't think the default settings in the bios was anywhere near as aggressive.

This game does push the hardware to it's limits. It's essentially a stress test. It makes sense that a computer with a unstable overclock that appears to work fine would crash trying to play this game. The way this game is designed it will probably be a while before we see computers that don't get saturated by the simulation

[Wyrm]

Since the last patch I've been having lots of random CTDs as well. Sometimes just minutes after starting the game.

I've found no pattern to it and I have not added any new mods after the patch.

[Kaia]

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson:

I have a AMD CPU and having the same issues.

I have a ryzen 5800x and a 7800xt gpu. I've had no crashes at all even with mods on until this latest patch. All my stuff are up to date (apart from my bios. plan to update soon), no hardware problems at all and the game is still crashing. I know its the game because no other game is crashing like skylines 2 right now. GPU and CPU temps are normal as well so its not that either.

One min its fine the next it crashes after starting withing less than 10 mins, doesnt matter if its a new save or an old save, it still happens regardless.

I only use 6 mods. Sometimes the game just randomly crashes to desktop after building/deleting stuff with no warning at all; I know the crashing every now and then happens around deleting/moving stuff so i may have to check one of my mods (better bulldozer)

[Asus]

https://www.quodsoler.com/blog/how-to-fix-crashes-in-unreal-engine5-games-on-intel-i7-13700k-and-i9-13900k-series