Bus lanes are broken

[Creandum]

I wanted to use bus lanes to prevent them from getting stuck in heavy traffic. But apparently they don't work as I had expected or hoped.

Exiting traffic can use a bus lane. Not sure how that works in other parts of the world, but where I come from, bus lanes are for buses and taxis only. You can cross them if you take an exit, in which case you'll have to yield, but you don't use them. Ever. You get a hefty fine if you do that in my country.

But even if I create a bus lane that's not also a regular exiting lane, but a new lane splitting off from a highway, everybody still uses it. I just watched a massive congestion on one of them, where none of the vehicles on the bus lane was a bus.

I posted about it on the Fediverse earlier today:
https://social.woefdram.nl/item/bb16302b-bc04-4a6c-b390-f971863575db

So at the moment I think bus lanes are useless.

[Aieonae]

I noted it as well, when particularly there are insufficient lane for traffic capacity they might occupy bus lanes especially on off ramp on highway, and the less common crossing.

But in this game I mainly use it for garbage trucks priority... Well it is an emergency nevertheless XD

[Creandum]

Originally posted by Aieonae:

I noted it as well, when particularly there are insufficient lane for traffic capacity they might occupy bus lanes especially on off ramp on highway, and the less common crossing.

But in this game I mainly use it for garbage trucks priority... Well it is an emergency nevertheless XD

Not sure if it's a real bug, or if we just need to be able to set drivers' willingness to break the rules a bit lower, like we could in CS1.

I really miss TMPE, where you could explicitly set all kinds of rules on roads. I particularly miss the Lane Connector...

[Stealthy]

Bus lanes are used for turning and during daytime, trucks can also use them.

[Gentoo]

Bus lanes have been broken for a long time. You can make entire roads just for busses, and all cars use them... sometimes. Other times only busses use them. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to this.

[mattbros24]

I noticed if you use the single one way bus/taxi lanes in the public transport section that regular private vehicles will use it, however if the lane is more than 1 lane. For example, I had 4 lane one way with the public transit lane (bus/taxi only and the private vehicles did not use. The one way, one lane needs fixed

[Dave]

Buslanes also do not carry water and power, I painfully found out while trying to safe the busstation from lethal, simulation breaking congestion. It did not work. Had to kill the busstation all together

[femme302]

y'all have never driven in the sf bay area and seen an altima held together with duct tape and broken dreams flying through the bus lane at the bay bridge toll plaza and it shows

[Creandum]

Originally posted by femme302:

y'all have never driven in the sf bay area and seen an altima held together with duct tape and broken dreams flying through the bus lane at the bay bridge toll plaza and it shows

I have, actually ;)

And of course, every now and then someone who isn't allowed to use the lane will use it anyway. That's ok, although I'd like to see a cop catch someone doing that, and giving him a nice fine.

If someone illegally uses the bus lane once in a blue moon, there's still be enough room for the buses. But if everybody does it -like in my game- it renders the bus lane completely useless. It's basically just another lane but with a different colour.

[Creandum]

Originally posted by Dave:

Buslanes also do not carry water and power, I painfully found out while trying to safe the busstation from lethal, simulation breaking congestion. It did not work. Had to kill the busstation all together

Late reaction, sorry.

Was just thinking about a construction like that: forcing those lanes through a bus station. Just tried it out, and bus lanes do indeed not carry water and power...

I ditched the bus lanes altogether. Tried splitting the lane off before a junction, building its own viaduct over it and then merging it back into the original road, but that would basically require me to devise a bus network with separate lanes everywhere, like a train.

So buses get stuck in traffic regularly. It's ok for now, gives me a reason to tackle those congestions. It usually boils down to adding more lanes.

The problem is that bus lanes are for buses, taxis "and turning traffic". That last bit should be dropped, in my eyes. Bus lanes are only for buses and taxis, not for anyone else.

But I think the simulator has a problem allowing the outer lane, the bus lane, to go ahead while the lane next to it, *on the left side*, exits to the right and needs to cross the bus lane.

Changing that could possibly mean a lot of work...

[dulany67]

Originally posted by Creandum:

Originally posted by Dave:

Buslanes also do not carry water and power, I painfully found out while trying to safe the busstation from lethal, simulation breaking congestion. It did not work. Had to kill the busstation all together

Late reaction, sorry.

Was just thinking about a construction like that: forcing those lanes through a bus station. Just tried it out, and bus lanes do indeed not carry water and power...

I ditched the bus lanes altogether. Tried splitting the lane off before a junction, building its own viaduct over it and then merging it back into the original road, but that would basically require me to devise a bus network with separate lanes everywhere, like a train.

So buses get stuck in traffic regularly. It's ok for now, gives me a reason to tackle those congestions. It usually boils down to adding more lanes.

The problem is that bus lanes are for buses, taxis "and turning traffic". That last bit should be dropped, in my eyes. Bus lanes are only for buses and taxis, not for anyone else.

But I think the simulator has a problem allowing the outer lane, the bus lane, to go ahead while the lane next to it, *on the left side*, exits to the right and needs to cross the bus lane.

Changing that could possibly mean a lot of work...

Don't know about anywhere else, but by me cars do turn from the bus lane. Otherwise, they would have to turn across the bus lane and no right turn is never a thing.

[farmpie23]

It looks like they fixed it! After an update this night al my European roads have an European flag and from now on the dedicated bus lanes are working corretly. In several minutes I saw only busses, taxies and maintaince vehicles on the lanes.

[LostInTheSimulation]

Originally posted by Creandum:

I wanted to use bus lanes to prevent them from getting stuck in heavy traffic. But apparently they don't work as I had expected or hoped.

Exiting traffic can use a bus lane. Not sure how that works in other parts of the world, but where I come from, bus lanes are for buses and taxis only. You can cross them if you take an exit, in which case you'll have to yield, but you don't use them. Ever. You get a hefty fine if you do that in my country.

But even if I create a bus lane that's not also a regular exiting lane, but a new lane splitting off from a highway, everybody still uses it. I just watched a massive congestion on one of them, where none of the vehicles on the bus lane was a bus.

I posted about it on the Fediverse earlier today:
https://social.woefdram.nl/item/bb16302b-bc04-4a6c-b390-f971863575db

So at the moment I think bus lanes are useless.

i know this discussion is quite old, but I had the same problem just now. I think I found the solution (i hope but maybe ppl in the thread can verify.) Set up your bus lanes as you want them, then use the 'no right turn', 'no left turn' or 'no straight' signs on the streets that feed into your bus lane. Buses will be exempt, but cars will now not use the bus lane. Then you have to force the buses to use the bus lanes with way points. Let the simulation run for a while so the change takes effect. Service vehicles are allowed to use the lanes, so no change there, and there will be a car or two but wont create traffic jams. (Caveat i only tried this in a city of 13500 population but i think the concept is sound

[***Astera***]

It annoys me to no end that Taxis just get to use bus lanes. Taxis are the bane of my existence sometimes in CS2 lol. But yes, turning traffic in real life gets to use bus lanes.

Busses get stuck in traffic, so like in real life they are inferior to trains/metro LOL.