what do i need to do to upgrade PC for CS2?

[Richie]

my city is at 65k and it is slowing down. speed is on fast but it is slower than the slow setting. this is what i have:

Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700F CPU @ 3.00GHz 3.00 GHz
Installed RAM 16.0 GB
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

[mosshunt]

It isn't RAM 32 GB is fine. The issue its a massive CPU bottleneck. 8 GB GPU also is not enough you need 12 GB minimum in 2024. Don't waste your money listen to those whom own the game.

[Doc001]

money

[rjewell101]

Nothing the game is Garbage and nothing you do will fix it!

[Tsubame ⭐]

Originally posted by sternenstaub70:

Originally posted by Tsubame ⭐:

This is assuming OP wants to mod, and there are not even moddable assets available yet to bloat memory up. 16 GB RAM is fine to the base game, and there is page filing as I stated, which significantly increases the effective amount of memory available. I have run it with no memory issues whatsoever with this amount of RAM; even CS1 with thousands of modded assets was running fine.

With all those region packs and a bunch of surface/decal packs and my big city my game is already running almost constantly with 32 GB RAM usage. It used to be less than 10 GB a while ago.
So I'd suggest to have at least 32 GB if you want to use all kinds of graphical extras which are already available.

About the pagefile:
A pagefile is actually only meant to outsource temporary peaks of memory shortages,
not for permanent usuage as a kind of RAM addition.

Since most computers nowadays have only SSDs you have also to keep in mind that SSDs have only a limited amount of write cycles.
By heavy using of the pagefile you make the SSD age way faster than it is supposed to be.

Imagine you have only 8 GB RAM, but the game needs 32 GB for proper playing, it would mean you are nonstop outsourcing 75% of your memory with nonstop read/write accesses to the SSD. If you are doing many marathon gaming sessions you can be sure, the SSD will die pretty fast - way faster than a spinning disk would do.
So, a pagefile is a good feature, buy heavily relying on it as a memory addon is definitely not the final solution.

It isn't, but the game will run nonetheless with minimal loss of performance.

SSD issues due to write cycles will take quite a while to appear, and that is assuming you are loading the game multiple times every single day.

There is no fallback for a potato of GPU, though.

Of course, if budget is not an issue, I would just get the newest and high tier hardware across the board instead.

[ekin]

Originally posted by Tsubame ⭐:

RAM affects mainly loading times, it has affects little ingame performance.

This makes zero sense :)

[Tsubame ⭐]

Originally posted by mehmeteking:

Originally posted by Tsubame ⭐:

RAM affects mainly loading times, it has affects little ingame performance.

This makes zero sense :)

Care to elaborate how it *strongly* contributes anywhere else?

[wecchio]

From settings try changing performance preference from frame rate to simulation speed.

[AG2590]

Originally posted by Richie:

my city is at 65k and it is slowing down. speed is on fast but it is slower than the slow setting. this is what i have:

Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700F CPU @ 3.00GHz 3.00 GHz
Installed RAM 16.0 GB
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

Honestly nothing. When you approach 100,000 citizens the game bogs down so badly even on monster hardware like a 14900K.

[Cosmic Sea]

Originally posted by mehmeteking:

Originally posted by Tsubame ⭐:

RAM affects mainly loading times, it has affects little ingame performance.

This makes zero sense :)

Computer engineer here.

Both are important, and you might see some performance improvement with faster memory, but ultimately you still need a process that is above average and the right CPU timings to get the most of it.

But you'll see the biggest difference when it comes to memory size and speed when the game is first loading.

In any case the simulation for CS2 is so poorly optimized that you're unlikely to see much of a difference after about 500k population (if not before), where software becomes the bottleneck.


Honestly TC, you probably don't want to hear it but it's probably time for a full rebuild. Even your video card is pretty outdated.

[Richie]

Originally posted by AG2590:

Honestly nothing. When you approach 100,000 citizens the game bogs down so badly even on monster hardware like a 14900K.

yeah, i reached 100k and it sucks. time to start a new city. IDK, it is not exciting anymore. when CS1 started to be playable, with all the mods and assets from the community, i was having fun. now CS2 seems to be a chore.

[Richie]

Originally posted by Linkouf:

Game simulation is heavy, so CPU upgrade is the way to go, if you can more and/or faster ram will help too.

While waiting for upgrade one thing you can do is downloading the "No dogs mod" by removing the dogs you are freeing up some CPU ressources and make the game run a little bit faster. I did this on a city with 300k pop and i saw a improvement (i had probably 2 or 3 times more dogs than humain in the town xD )

i subscribed to it and 24 hours later the dogs are still rampant. i guess it doesn't work anymore

[ekin]

Originally posted by Cosmic Sea:

Originally posted by mehmeteking:

This makes zero sense :)

Computer engineer here.

Both are important, and you might see some performance improvement with faster memory, but ultimately you still need a process that is above average and the right CPU timings to get the most of it.

But you'll see the biggest difference when it comes to memory size and speed when the game is first loading.

In any case the simulation for CS2 is so poorly optimized that you're unlikely to see much of a difference after about 500k population (if not before), where software becomes the bottleneck.


Honestly TC, you probably don't want to hear it but it's probably time for a full rebuild. Even your video card is pretty outdated.

I am also a computer engineer, no worries...
And without RAM, CPU is nothing; so sayeth the wise von Neumann :)

[ekin]

Originally posted by Tsubame ⭐:

Originally posted by mehmeteking:

This makes zero sense :)

Care to elaborate how it *strongly* contributes anywhere else?

No. I am tired of explaining how computers work to know-it-all gamers.

But I can tell you that if you profile the game you will find an extremely high CPI, which indicates a RAM throughput issue; i.e. congestion.

[peterslee9]

Originally posted by mehmeteking:

Originally posted by Tsubame ⭐:

Care to elaborate how it *strongly* contributes anywhere else?

No. I am tired of explaining how computers work to know-it-all gamers.

But I can tell you that if you profile the game you will find an extremely high CPI, which indicates a RAM throughput issue; i.e. congestion.

Yeah, I have the same thoughts. I just leave it alone, well, unless provoked.
Waiting Tsubame.
Let me know.

I even no longer respond to a poster who can't spell their question correctly and properly or a short open-ended statement, a repetitive title already asked in the last days or a illogical rant. They did not even take a reasonable consideration before posting. Somehow it just indicates something to me I find unworthy of a extensive, time involved reply. How much confidence does a responder have in the poster and following what is replied. Makes one wonder if the poster can read to begin with and follow the response.
In and out foolish poster.
Indeed, resume not even considered,
to trash can.

[Richie]

Originally posted by peterslee9:

I even no longer respond to a poster who can't spell their question correctly and properly or a short open-ended statement, a repetitive title already asked in the last days or a illogical rant. They did not even take a reasonable consideration before posting. Somehow it just indicates something to me I find unworthy of a extensive, time involved reply. How much confidence does a responder have in the poster and following what is replied. Makes one wonder if the poster can read to begin with and follow the response.
In and out foolish poster.
Indeed, resume not even considered,
to trash can.

says the person who is taking a lot of time responding. i'll probably get flagged even though you are being offensive, but why are you responding if you are so self entitled? my post was short and sweet. nothing needed to be explained any further, nothing wrong with it. move on...