Cities: Skylines II

Cities: Skylines II

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kt4il Nov 16, 2023 @ 4:09am
Is the mail system broken ?
I've put many postal offices and a big postal center but my entire system is still bad. And i don't understand why. Can someone help me ? (sorry for the english, not my native language)
Last edited by kt4il; Nov 16, 2023 @ 4:11am
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Zero, Dark Knight Nov 16, 2023 @ 4:18am 
Yep it is.

Trucks keep bringing in 50k mail and your delivery truck can't deliver that much.

It's a known issue.
The Griffin King Nov 16, 2023 @ 4:19am 
known issue they are working on a fix
MoistGamer Nov 16, 2023 @ 4:40am 
Originally posted by The Griffin King:
known issue they are working on a fix

Its crazy they didnt notice this in testing prior to go live :steamthumbsdown: if you ask me. Play one city, get the population up, check the postal, note that no matter what you do the postal stays high.

Who'd release it like that intentionally? Nobody. So they mustve somehow missed it??
Last edited by MoistGamer; Nov 16, 2023 @ 4:41am
AchoKaracho Nov 16, 2023 @ 4:51am 
It doesn't matter what you do.
Because there is no supply-demand system.
I had a very good and long discussion in another thread with 2 people from the forum.
I then built a test city during the discussion.
~1600 inhabitants in 3 small districts.
Some industry and a few commercial buildings.
There is also a freight train station and 1 post office in each district.
Additionally a harbor.

The port and the freight train stations have always received 222 tons of all the materials available in the game.
Additionally, 222t of garbage and local mail was delivered to every freight train station and port.

Then ALL 3 post offices were supplied with 50,000 Local Mail each.
That means my three post offices had 150,000 letters in storage to be delivered.
This with 1600 people, a few companies and a few shops in the city.
Given the size of the city, you would expect more than 10,000 letters in total. And that's a lot.
If there were a real supply-demand system, 150,000 letters would not have been delivered randomly.

Which brings me to the question: "Is there even a supply-demand system in Cities skyline 2?"

Because all goods transshipment points were each supplied with 222t of ALL goods available in the game.
Although I didn't even have 100 industrial and commercial buildings in this test city.
OtterSwag Nov 16, 2023 @ 4:51am 
I don't think the game was playable with any large enough city too need any working services until just at/after release... So I honestly think they was unable too test it.. It's a crazy idea too release at that point
badasscat2000 Nov 17, 2023 @ 3:02am 
I don't think it's the mail system that's broken, but the cargo system.

Mail was killing me in my city until tonight, and I finally cracked it. I had post offices and mailboxes all over the place, along with 2 fully upgraded sorting facilities in my city of 170k. Still when I looked at the mail coverage, my streets (network) were all green but all my buildings (mail buildup) were red. And everybody in those buildings was complaining about unreliable mail service.

I looked around and noticed that the post offices were not sending out many vehicles (they were sending out a few) and neither were the sorting facilities, despite all this mail supposedly building up. Only two or three mail trucks going out from any of my post offices was a big clue. None of my post offices had much mail stored either.

I then deleted a whole bunch of post offices, and added a whole bunch of mailboxes. I also added another sorting facility since my sorting capacity was also below what the game said I needed (even though neither current facility was doing much of anything).

All of a sudden my post offices sprang to life. 20-30 trucks dispatched from each of them. Once they returned from a couple of collecting runs, the sorting facilities also went into action picking up stored mail from the post offices.

What I think is happening is that there's a threshold for stored mail that needs to be reached for either the post office or the sorting facility to go to work. Not enough stored mail in mailboxes or waiting to be delivered and the post office won't send trucks out. Not enough stored mail at the post office and the sorting facility won't collect and sort it.

I got the balance where it seemed right, waited a while and all my previously red buildings turned green. The bottom line is you actually *want* some mail to build up in your post offices or nothing will happen to it and people will just grumble because the trucks aren't going out. The way to do this is a lot of mailboxes and not a lot of post offices. Obviously you do want just enough post offices that the trucks can hit all the mailboxes in a timely manner, but no more than that.

The bug with the cargo is that if you have a cargo train station or harbor, you can get mail piling up there that goes nowhere. I had a little bit of that at my train station but not enough to affect things (about 80 tons). But I know other people get hundreds of tons of mail stuck at one of those places, and all you can do at this point is delete the harbor or train station. Then your mail will start working again. I didn't have to do that, though. I just had to get the balance right.
ripinthegalaxy Dec 14, 2023 @ 7:08pm 
Originally posted by badasscat2000:
I don't think it's the mail system that's broken, but the cargo system.



All of a sudden my post offices sprang to life. 20-30 trucks dispatched from each of them. Once they returned from a couple of collecting runs, the sorting facilities also went into action picking up stored mail from the post offices.

I Added a ton of Mailboxes, even though my streets were green and the trucks started comming out, I went from 10 trucks out of 3 post offices to about 20 which didn't seem like a big difference, but they started clearing all the red buildings. It seems like the game was stuck just emptying mail boxes and not the buildings on their route. the 10 trucks had been driving around emptying mail boxes and leaving all the office and high density residentials alone. The new trucks, triggered by more mail boxes to empty, started clearing building as well.

This eventually stopped working, so i deleted every mail box near the full buildings, and again a flood of trucks came out. I think the vans were going around picking tiny bits of mail from the boxes and never going to buildings.
Last edited by ripinthegalaxy; Dec 14, 2023 @ 9:04pm
me22ca Dec 14, 2023 @ 8:34pm 
Originally posted by MoistGamer:
Its crazy they didnt notice this in testing prior to go live

There's so many blatant things that are broken -- the number of high school students is my usual example -- that either they just didn't test things at all for anything other than lack of crashing or they just didn't care and shipped anyway.

Both make me lose respect for them as developers.
kenh Dec 15, 2023 @ 3:25am 
I don't think it is broken - you just have to get the balance right between post offices, sorting offices and post boxes. I just flood the city with post boxes! Works fine in a city of 170,000
Lick Rimmington Dec 15, 2023 @ 3:51am 
Originally posted by kenh:
I don't think it is broken - you just have to get the balance right between post offices, sorting offices and post boxes. I just flood the city with post boxes! Works fine in a city of 170,000
It is broken when you add any cargo facility building with rail attachment. Plop a cargo train station down or airport with cargo attachment. Wait and see.
kenh Dec 15, 2023 @ 7:18am 
Originally posted by Lick Rimmington:
Originally posted by kenh:
I don't think it is broken - you just have to get the balance right between post offices, sorting offices and post boxes. I just flood the city with post boxes! Works fine in a city of 170,000
It is broken when you add any cargo facility building with rail attachment. Plop a cargo train station down or airport with cargo attachment. Wait and see.
Done that! My post offices and sorting depot are fine. Got two cargo docks and one train cargo. Everything working as it should! All green buildings, no excess storage and lots of vans!
Lick Rimmington Dec 15, 2023 @ 8:02am 
Originally posted by kenh:
Originally posted by Lick Rimmington:
It is broken when you add any cargo facility building with rail attachment. Plop a cargo train station down or airport with cargo attachment. Wait and see.
Done that! My post offices and sorting depot are fine. Got two cargo docks and one train cargo. Everything working as it should! All green buildings, no excess storage and lots of vans!
Imma let you test it out for another 10 hours before I go through the hassle of setting up all the cargo routes again champ.
kenh Dec 15, 2023 @ 8:32am 
Originally posted by Lick Rimmington:
Originally posted by kenh:
Done that! My post offices and sorting depot are fine. Got two cargo docks and one train cargo. Everything working as it should! All green buildings, no excess storage and lots of vans!
Imma let you test it out for another 10 hours before I go through the hassle of setting up all the cargo routes again champ.

Good luck! I don't know what advice I can give. Lots of post boxes (and I mean lots!), reduce the number of post offices (?) and allocate them to districts. Reduce traffic if possible - that seems to help. Unlike CS1, this game seems to require a fine balancing act for things to work (post, garbage, building demand, export/import etc).
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Date Posted: Nov 16, 2023 @ 4:09am
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