Cities: Skylines II

Cities: Skylines II

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Sasquatch Jul 7, 2024 @ 2:56pm
Network multitool?
Seems like some of the best C:S1 mods are missing or nerfed in C:S2. MoveIt! doesn't have a function to fix slopes on networks, only the most basic movement options. And I can't find a Network Multitool equivalent at all. Are there any mods available, or pending, for people who want to build tidy networks? The base ones aren't as bad as the original. But they are still bad.
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peterslee9 Jul 8, 2024 @ 9:30am 
Network Multitool

Appears macsergey is on it.
Freshest tomatoes I can give you Bigfoot at the time -
https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/games/cities-skylines-ii/modding/dev-diary-3-code-modding
:)
Last edited by peterslee9; Jul 8, 2024 @ 1:55pm
sternenstaub70 Jul 8, 2024 @ 2:08pm 
You have to keep in mind how long it took until Network multitool became this fine, useful and complex tool it is nowaday...
And then compare it to the time since CS2 has official code modding implemented in the game.
Honestly I would have been surprised if we already had the same mod with all the functions it has in CS1, especially if we consider that the whole road network and the road nodes had been overhauled for this game.
Haystack (Banned) Jul 8, 2024 @ 5:33pm 
Originally posted by Sasquatch:
Seems like some of the best C:S1 mods are missing or nerfed in C:S2. MoveIt! doesn't have a function to fix slopes on networks, only the most basic movement options. And I can't find a Network Multitool equivalent at all. Are there any mods available, or pending, for people who want to build tidy networks? The base ones aren't as bad as the original. But they are still bad.

@ squatch,
What are you doing in CS2 ? Thought you'd have known better. :) Near as I can tell, everything good about CS1 has been "nerfed in CS2. No workshop, no MoveIt, No Industries DLC. A few people claim to enjoy CS2 but so far none have bothered to explain why. Absolutely NO reason to pay 50.00 for this junk.
『Insperatus』 Jul 8, 2024 @ 5:37pm 
Originally posted by Haystack:
Originally posted by Sasquatch:
Seems like some of the best C:S1 mods are missing or nerfed in C:S2. MoveIt! doesn't have a function to fix slopes on networks, only the most basic movement options. And I can't find a Network Multitool equivalent at all. Are there any mods available, or pending, for people who want to build tidy networks? The base ones aren't as bad as the original. But they are still bad.

@ squatch,
What are you doing in CS2 ? Thought you'd have known better. :) Near as I can tell, everything good about CS1 has been "nerfed in CS2. No workshop, no MoveIt, No Industries DLC. A few people claim to enjoy CS2 but so far none have bothered to explain why. Absolutely NO reason to pay 50.00 for this junk.

You must be new.
Stealthy Jul 8, 2024 @ 9:08pm 
So create your own mods then? Rather than demand others to make them for you?

Moveit is there and is being updated from time to time, based on how author has time. It wasn't created over night for C:S1 either and started from simple Up - Down control for a node point. Over the _years_ it evolved to what it is now.

Same with network multitool. It will come, when it comes.

You could of course also hire these people to do full time development for this mods to get them out faster.

No? Then you need to wait.
Haystack (Banned) Jul 9, 2024 @ 1:16am 
Originally posted by Stealthy:
So create your own mods then? Rather than demand others to make them for you?

Moveit is there and is being updated from time to time, based on how author has time. It wasn't created over night for C:S1 either and started from simple Up - Down control for a node point. Over the _years_ it evolved to what it is now.

Same with network multitool. It will come, when it comes.

You could of course also hire these people to do full time development for this mods to get them out faster.

No? Then you need to wait.

No need for all that. Simply a whole lot easier and way more productive to just stick with CS1.
Stealthy Jul 9, 2024 @ 1:46am 
Originally posted by Haystack:

No need for all that. Simply a whole lot easier and way more productive to just stick with CS1.

One would imagine you to do so. And also one must wonder how much time you got to spare to hang around spreading misinformation... You don't like the game, fine. But why waste time from your life here then?
Andre K. Jul 9, 2024 @ 5:27am 
Originally posted by Stealthy:
Originally posted by Haystack:

No need for all that. Simply a whole lot easier and way more productive to just stick with CS1.

One would imagine you to do so. And also one must wonder how much time you got to spare to hang around spreading misinformation... You don't like the game, fine. But why waste time from your life here then?
I agree
Haystack (Banned) Jul 9, 2024 @ 11:31am 
Misinformation. Such as ?
Wondering ? My time my life. Wonder all you like, but if it will ease your pain... Waiting around to see if anyone reports anything in CS2 actually working correctly or as advertised. Oh and for any news on getting the price right.
Waiting for the loose lipped CO want-a-be's to stop predicting that it's coming and start announcing that it's here.
Maybe just waiting around to see if ever one of those high and mighty self proclaimed forum know it all's will scratch around and find the stones to step up and tell the truth.
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Sasquatch Jul 10, 2024 @ 7:27pm 
Originally posted by Stealthy:
So create your own mods then? Rather than demand others to make them for you?

Moveit is there and is being updated from time to time, based on how author has time. It wasn't created over night for C:S1 either and started from simple Up - Down control for a node point. Over the _years_ it evolved to what it is now.

Same with network multitool. It will come, when it comes.

You could of course also hire these people to do full time development for this mods to get them out faster.

No? Then you need to wait.
Where, exactly, did I "demand" anything? Huh? I simply asked if they were available. Why do you have to be ignorant and attack me for asking a perfectly legitimate, polite question. Do you grow your own food, or do you get it at the grocery store? Do you make your own clothes? Why tell me to make something for myself? This is why I don't like people.
Originally posted by Sasquatch:
Originally posted by Stealthy:
So create your own mods then? Rather than demand others to make them for you?

Moveit is there and is being updated from time to time, based on how author has time. It wasn't created over night for C:S1 either and started from simple Up - Down control for a node point. Over the _years_ it evolved to what it is now.

Same with network multitool. It will come, when it comes.

You could of course also hire these people to do full time development for this mods to get them out faster.

No? Then you need to wait.
Where, exactly, did I "demand" anything? Huh? I simply asked if they were available. Why do you have to be ignorant and attack me for asking a perfectly legitimate, polite question. Do you grow your own food, or do you get it at the grocery store? Do you make your own clothes? Why tell me to make something for myself? This is why I don't like people.
Stealthy is just an agitator. Every post is carefully crafted to agitate and anger. Just read his posts. He never offers any actual help, only ever offers compliments to the game and insults to anyone who is having any kind of trouble with it.
I've even been banned for pointing this out before. I might be banned again for pointing this out again.
Last edited by zaltocleotl[Banned@Paradox]; Jul 10, 2024 @ 9:41pm
Stealthy Jul 10, 2024 @ 10:47pm 
Originally posted by Sasquatch:
Where, exactly, did I "demand" anything? Huh? I simply asked if they were available. Why do you have to be ignorant and attack me for asking a perfectly legitimate, polite question. Do you grow your own food, or do you get it at the grocery store? Do you make your own clothes? Why tell me to make something for myself? This is why I don't like people.

Blaming this being nerfed etc. isn't exactly the most polite way. Mod makers work for free, on their own time, at their own pace and they release stuff when they are ready. Nothing has been "nerfed" it's just that they haven't been created yet. Everything you want was created over the years for C:S1, Over several years infact. If you'd understand this, you wouldn't have even posted your "friendly question".

C:S2 modding is vastly different from C:S1, so expect 3-4 years to go by without full functionality of same mods that are "ready" in C:S1.
Stealthy Jul 10, 2024 @ 10:47pm 
Originally posted by zaltocleotl:
Stealthy is just an agitator. Every post is carefully crafted to agitate and anger. Just read his posts. He never offers any actual help, only ever offers compliments to the game and insults to anyone who is having any kind of trouble with it.
I've even been banned for pointing this out before. I might be banned again for pointing this out again.

Lies are your speciality and I always help people in genuine need. You just aren't one of them.
Originally posted by Stealthy:
Originally posted by zaltocleotl:
Stealthy is just an agitator. Every post is carefully crafted to agitate and anger. Just read his posts. He never offers any actual help, only ever offers compliments to the game and insults to anyone who is having any kind of trouble with it.
I've even been banned for pointing this out before. I might be banned again for pointing this out again.

Lies are your speciality and I always help people in genuine need. You just aren't one of them.
Which lie in that ONE SENTENCE do you want to stick with?
"I always help people" is negated by the fact that you next state there is someone you never help. So you can't always if you also never.
I wish STEAM had a better 'ignore' function.
Sasquatch Jul 13, 2024 @ 1:20pm 
Originally posted by Stealthy:
Originally posted by Sasquatch:
Where, exactly, did I "demand" anything? Huh? I simply asked if they were available. Why do you have to be ignorant and attack me for asking a perfectly legitimate, polite question. Do you grow your own food, or do you get it at the grocery store? Do you make your own clothes? Why tell me to make something for myself? This is why I don't like people.

Blaming this being nerfed etc. isn't exactly the most polite way. Mod makers work for free, on their own time, at their own pace and they release stuff when they are ready. Nothing has been "nerfed" it's just that they haven't been created yet. Everything you want was created over the years for C:S1, Over several years infact. If you'd understand this, you wouldn't have even posted your "friendly question".

C:S2 modding is vastly different from C:S1, so expect 3-4 years to go by without full functionality of same mods that are "ready" in C:S1.
Yup, you are an instigator. All I did was ask if something was available. The game has been out for a while. Modders had early access to it. The core functionality of the mods already existed. All they need to do is port it over to the new API. C:S2 isn't written in a different language. It doesn't have completely new ways of doing things. So it shouldn't take years for skilled modders to port things.
Some of the bigger modders make more off Patreon than I make working an actual job. They aren't starving. And modding isn't as time-consuming as you make it out. Especially when you have programming experience and the existing code to build on. I have made my own mods for another game.
"MoveIt" has been nerfed. It's available, but is missing 2/3 of the functionality it had. That's the literal definition of "nerfed".
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Date Posted: Jul 7, 2024 @ 2:56pm
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