crashes without mods

[Darth Malak]

Not using mods but the game keeps crashing since the last update. Before it crashes sometimes now a lot more

[Fozruk]

Same. My city has fewer than 20k people with no mods, no frame rate issues, and my PC isn't heating up at all. The game seems to crash with no obvious cause and I can't play for longer than 10 minutes at a time before it just exists. I'm playing a new city after the Economy 2.0 changes.

[aksoyozcan]

just do clean uninstall,
Clear the left over documents in installation directory and under username/ Appdata/Locallow/Colossal order folders restart your pc then reinstall the game.

[Fozruk]

I reinstalled the game and it's still crashing. It seems to be most consistent when an overlay is active like when I'm placing a service building. Notably, it crashed when I was placing a water treatment plant and a comm tower. This time my new town is under 10k population. Graphics drivers are up-to-date as of today, too. Not sure what else to do.

[pacificjournalist]

Same. I am not using mods, did a clean reinstall and the game still crashes after five minutes. Every single time. And no, my computer is not a potato! This is starting to become a pattern with Paradox games, the same thing is happening with Victoria 3. Crash after crash after crash.

[sternenstaub70]

Originally posted by Fozruk:

I reinstalled the game and it's still crashing. It seems to be most consistent when an overlay is active like when I'm placing a service building.

did you also do what aksoyazcan mentioned ?
If you reinstall only without getting rid of old data remnants, weird things can happen.

Especially if you had installed some mods back in the past and don't use them anymore.
Their remnants could still be there and causing conflicts even if not subscribed to them.

[Fozruk]

Originally posted by sternenstaub70:

Originally posted by Fozruk:

I reinstalled the game and it's still crashing. It seems to be most consistent when an overlay is active like when I'm placing a service building.

did you also do what aksoyazcan mentioned ?
If you reinstall only without getting rid of old data remnants, weird things can happen.

Especially if you had installed some mods back in the past and don't use them anymore.
Their remnants could still be there and causing conflicts even if not subscribed to them.

I did. All of my old saves were deleted, which is fine, and I never had any mods to begin with. I imagine it's some uncaught exception somewhere but I can't replicate the issue consistently. I've kept an eye on CPU and GPU usage and it doesn't look like a memory leak. I'm obviously in the minority here because this is the only recent post I saw about random crashes so I must be doing something differently.

The game was more stable for me before the Economy 2.0 update as far as crashes are concerned but, again, I can't replicate the issue.

[Fozruk]

Finally got some error output

[object Object]
NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at Colossal.Serialization.Entities.BinaryWriter.Write (System.UInt32 value) [0x00000] in <c1935911498a4dd8bb7051990900e452>:0 
  at Colossal.Serialization.Entities.BinaryWriter.Write (System.Single value) [0x00007] in <c1935911498a4dd8bb7051990900e452>:0 
  at Colossal.Serialization.Entities.BinaryWriter.Write (Colossal.Mathematics.Bezier4x3 curve) [0x0000c] in <c1935911498a4dd8bb7051990900e452>:0 
  at Game.Net.Curve.Serialize[TWriter] (TWriter writer) [0x00000] in <b32c7d7e7ca9498a8ce0ea5e934fb7a7>:0 
  at Colossal.Serialization.Entities.BinaryWriter.Write[TSerializable] (TSerializable value) [0x00000] in <c1935911498a4dd8bb7051990900e452>:0 
  at Colossal.Serialization.Entities.ComponentDataSerializer`1+SerializeComponentDataJob`1[TComponentData,TWriter].Execute () [0x00094] in <c1935911498a4dd8bb7051990900e452>:0 
  at Unity.Jobs.IJobExtensions+JobStruct`1[T].Execute (T& data, System.IntPtr additionalPtr, System.IntPtr bufferRangePatchData, Unity.Jobs.LowLevel.Unsafe.JobRanges& ranges, System.Int32 jobIndex) [0x00001] in <dfbdd4656e0844829a5285bde9c1a365>:0 
  at (wrapper delegate-invoke) Unity.Jobs.IJobExtensions+JobStruct`1+ExecuteJobFunction[Colossal.Serialization.Entities.ComponentDataSerializer`1+SerializeComponentDataJob`1[Game.Net.Curve,Colossal.Serialization.Entities.BinaryWriter]].invoke_void_T&_intptr_intptr_JobRanges&_int(Colossal.Serialization.Entities.ComponentDataSerializer`1/SerializeComponentDataJob`1<Game.Net.Curve, Colossal.Serialization.Entities.BinaryWriter>&,intptr,intptr,Unity.Jobs.LowLevel.Unsafe.JobRanges&,int)
Colossal.Logging.CustomLogHandler:LogException(Exception, Object)
UnityEngine.Logger:LogException(Exception, Object)
UnityEngine.Debug:CallOverridenDebugHandler(Exception, Object)

[eQ]

I also CTD without any errors after Eco 2.0

[dbeachy1]

What fixed the constant crashing every few minutes on a new install and city for me was disabling auto-save in the game settings.

[Fozruk]

Originally posted by dbeachy1:

What fixed the constant crashing every few minutes on a new install and city for me was disabling auto-save in the game settings.

I disabled autosave and it still crashed within just a couple minutes. This time I was drawing out a bus line.

I also just tried disabling DLSS and instead of just exiting, I got a popup with another NullReferenceException.

[object Object]
NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
  at Colossal.Serialization.Entities.BinaryWriter.Write (System.UInt32 value) [0x00000] in <c1935911498a4dd8bb7051990900e452>:0 
  at Colossal.Serialization.Entities.BinaryWriter.Write (System.Single value) [0x00007] in <c1935911498a4dd8bb7051990900e452>:0 
  at Game.Objects.Transform.Serialize[TWriter] (TWriter writer) [0x00013] in <b32c7d7e7ca9498a8ce0ea5e934fb7a7>:0 
  at Colossal.Serialization.Entities.BinaryWriter.Write[TSerializable] (TSerializable value) [0x00000] in <c1935911498a4dd8bb7051990900e452>:0 
  at Colossal.Serialization.Entities.ComponentDataSerializer`1+SerializeComponentDataJob`1[TComponentData,TWriter].Execute () [0x00166] in <c1935911498a4dd8bb7051990900e452>:0 
  at Unity.Jobs.IJobExtensions+JobStruct`1[T].Execute (T& data, System.IntPtr additionalPtr, System.IntPtr bufferRangePatchData, Unity.Jobs.LowLevel.Unsafe.JobRanges& ranges, System.Int32 jobIndex) [0x00001] in <dfbdd4656e0844829a5285bde9c1a365>:0 
  at (wrapper delegate-invoke) Unity.Jobs.IJobExtensions+JobStruct`1+ExecuteJobFunction[Colossal.Serialization.Entities.ComponentDataSerializer`1+SerializeComponentDataJob`1[Game.Objects.Transform,Colossal.Serialization.Entities.BinaryWriter]].invoke_void_T&_intptr_intptr_JobRanges&_int(Colossal.Serialization.Entities.ComponentDataSerializer`1/SerializeComponentDataJob`1<Game.Objects.Transform, Colossal.Serialization.Entities.BinaryWriter>&,intptr,intptr,Unity.Jobs.LowLevel.Unsafe.JobRanges&,int)
Colossal.Logging.CustomLogHandler:LogException(Exception, Object)
UnityEngine.Logger:LogException(Exception, Object)
UnityEngine.Debug:CallOverridenDebugHandler(Exception, Object)

It looks similar to the last error I posted. It does seem to be less stable when overlays are active but it's also crashed without any action from me.

I appreciate everyone's input! Thanks for the suggestions.

[Fozruk]

More errors. I think my save is corrupted now

[object Object]
ComponentSerializerException: Data size mismatch when deserializing component null
  at Colossal.Serialization.Entities.ComponentDataSerializer`1+DeserializeComponentDataJob`1[TComponentData,TReader].Execute () [0x00320] in <c1935911498a4dd8bb7051990900e452>:0 
  at Unity.Jobs.IJobExtensions+JobStruct`1[T].Execute (T& data, System.IntPtr additionalPtr, System.IntPtr bufferRangePatchData, Unity.Jobs.LowLevel.Unsafe.JobRanges& ranges, System.Int32 jobIndex) [0x00001] in <dfbdd4656e0844829a5285bde9c1a365>:0 
  at (wrapper delegate-invoke) Unity.Jobs.IJobExtensions+JobStruct`1+ExecuteJobFunction[Colossal.Serialization.Entities.ComponentDataSerializer`1+DeserializeComponentDataJob`1[Game.Objects.Transform,Colossal.Serialization.Entities.BinaryReader]].invoke_void_T&_intptr_intptr_JobRanges&_int(Colossal.Serialization.Entities.ComponentDataSerializer`1/DeserializeComponentDataJob`1<Game.Objects.Transform, Colossal.Serialization.Entities.BinaryReader>&,intptr,intptr,Unity.Jobs.LowLevel.Unsafe.JobRanges&,int)
Colossal.Logging.CustomLogHandler:LogException(Exception, Object)
UnityEngine.Logger:LogException(Exception, Object)
UnityEngine.Debug:CallOverridenDebugHandler(Exception, Object)

[Mr. Andersen]

Turn off XMP or Expo... It now works for me...
The ram is to fast now and the memory on the motherboad can not keep up with it...