14900K Crashes - You Too?

[Cruzatte]

I crash after the patch. (Both of the latest.) In an existing city, in a new city, with mods disabled, with the whole thing wiped & reinstalled after deleting LocalLow… I can’t run a new or old city for more than 10 minutes after the patch.

I’m already at Intel’s recommended settings for PL1, PL2 and ICCMax. (And I’ve turned off my overclock.) I find that if I take ICCMax down WAY below the recommended threshold, like down to 300 amps, the game runs a little longer before it crashes. I played for like 15 minutes like this, which is longest I’ve achieved since Econ 2.0. (Though without my overclock and with the current cranked down low, my sim speed sucks. With 350k pop, I get like 2.8x sim speed when I set it to 4x, whereas when I have my CPU cranked I get closer to 3.5x…. but the game crashes fast & hard.)

Anyway this is why I’m positive that the crashes are CPU-related.

There are no other games that crash like this. And the damn thing ran fine before the update, with max watts/amps/volts/OC.

It can’t be the computations required by Death Wave (etc.) because it crashes in new, blank cities too.

Anyone else? On 13900/14900, that is.

[john.glossop]

What else is in your PC - the CPU is only one part of it.

[Major Kudos™]

Wow! I have both of those chips running both my big cities 24/7 the 12900k since day 1 in CS2 and the 14900k also just a few weeks later.

The 14900k is currently pushing my 2.8 million pop post Beach properties city (MSI mobo) and the 12900k is running my pre Beach Properties 2.1 million pop city (ASrock mobo). All game settings on high no OC ever on either and both high performance game setting and windows. Loaded Hotfix on both this morning and other than reboots every morning have been running 24/7 since the game came out. All documented daily on my game test thread.

No problem for me yet but I do know most of them are caused by overzealous certain motherboard stock settings. Is your mobo on the naughty list?

I had two crashes early this morning after loading the hotfix but only on the 14900K, but nothing ever before or after. Never on the 12900k.

[lukas]

I have 13900k. You have air cooling or water cooling on that cpu ? Because this is the only poorly written game that use CPU like cryptomining and I have water cooling. So if you are on air cooling you need to do serious down voltage for this not to boil your PC.

[✪ richy]

me too

[Minotaur]

Hit up the PC channels on YTubes. It's a design fault feature, courtesy of Intel OC'ing out of the box. M/B makers have been handed the hard task, reduce BIOS settings. That I doubt they'll do for those benchmark reviews, can't lose by 2% to Asus! Must push it 2.5% more etc etc.
If your PC can't pass running LinX x64 etc, it's not stable. Not sure what else they use these days to stress test, but LinX is FIRE bewarned! :)

[Stealthy]

Originally posted by Minotaur:

Hit up the PC channels on YTubes. It's a design fault feature, courtesy of Intel OC'ing out of the box. M/B makers have been handed the hard task, reduce BIOS settings. That I doubt they'll do for those benchmark reviews, can't lose by 2% to Asus! Must push it 2.5% more etc etc.
If your PC can't pass running LinX x64 etc, it's not stable. Not sure what else they use these days to stress test, but LinX is FIRE bewarned! :)

MB makers have been assigned with a task to actually offer settings with intel specs. For example ASUS offered as default setting 4096W max power... Slightly more than specified 253W. I've set mine manually to remain within that 253W and no problems with the game.

[mosshunt]

think you might have the crashing bug due to the MB makers OC settings. check youtube as there are a few solutions

[V_Cred]

CPU Temps? This Game is VERY VERY CPU hunger, running this game is like rendering something on Blender.

[Major Kudos™]

Originally posted by V_Cred:

CPU Temps? This Game is VERY VERY CPU hunger, running this game is like rendering something on Blender.

Can it run CS:2? Has become a thing.

[Tesastick]

Got the same Problem on a i9 14900K. Crashes after several minutes. Cpu temperatur is around 80-90°C, peak was 91°C.

[Ghostrider]

There is / was a problem with some 13th and 14th Intel CPU's. Although the issue has been somewhat fixed by a motherboard bios update.

[Cruzatte]

OP checking back in.

To answer questions:

- I have a more than capable mobo (ASUS Dark Hero Z790). I have BIOS 2301 installed, so, I'm nominally up to date in terms of Intel crashes.

- I have fully custom EXTERNAL watercooling -- 2 x 360mm rads internal, and 1 x 560mm rad external. You basically couldn't run a 14900K cooler than I run mine without going the liquid nitrogen route, tbh. Though I didn't de-lid so I guess that's only half-true. My delta T on big overclocks hangs out around 6 degrees, when gaming.

- CPU is fully stable on my OC / current parameters in all stress tests you could think of. But to reiterate I have tried setting everything back to full stock to see what that accomplishes in Cities 2 (basically nothing, as noted).

- GPU is ROG 4090 OC, when my GPU crashes I know it -- and historically when I've crashed my GPU in Cities 2, it has given me a crash dump, so even in this specific program there's a difference. These are definitely CPU crashes. I have also set my GPU back to full defaults for Cities 2 testing, for what that's worth.

- I've monitored the crashes closely with Aquasuite (naturally) and HW Monitor, and I can't find any really weird behavior right before a Cities 2 crash.

[intrinsica]

CTD frequently. Yesterday, I found an application crash event in the Windows event viewer...
Faulting application name: Cities2.exe, version: 2022.3.29.20748, time stamp: 0x663b55b2
Faulting module name: lib_burst_generated.dll, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x6685146e
UPDATE: installed latest BIOS to computer [i9-14900K] and crashes have reduced to one every four hours.
UPDATE2: no crashes during a single 12 hour run

[Ghostrider]

Also I think this is just the game in general as I have a AMD R9 7900X3D with a RTX 4070Ti Super and have had the game crash a couple of times. It is very random as I can play the game quite a few hours and no hassle. And others I can play for 5 or 10 minutes and have the game CTD.

[bretnet]

I've got AMD 5700X and a RTX4070 and same as you I keep getting CTD every 5 minutes or so. I've checked event viewer and can't see any errors. I've resorted to autosave every couple of minutes just so i'm not losing progress all the time. Its very frustrating, my city is only 7,000 population. I removed and deleted all mods, and reinstalled the game twice. But still the game keeps crashing.