DLSS to mask performance issues then...?

[geekl33tgamer]

I refunded this dumpster fire of a "sequel" at launch day, but it's making news sites again so I thought I'd give it a 2nd look. It might have improved. /s

Seems not, when DLSS is the single biggest "fix" they wan't to shout very loudly about. How about developers stop using DLSS to mask performance issues in their own game?

DLSS isn't optimisation, it's the LAZY way to artificially up the FPS. It also locks out anyone who doesn't use Nvidia, so Radeon users will have an even worse time if that were even possible....

[𝓕𝔁]

It also adds 10%-20% additional cpu load in CS2, which takes away from simulation performance. And high cpu load equals problems rendering new frames.
Most of the extra FPS it gives seem to be old frames that it could queue up during the momentary gaps in the high cpu load.

Sure, it helps it to appear to perform ok when looking at an FPS counter, but in reality, its no better than before. Simulation is slower. TAA is better because of the lower CPU usage on a cpu demanding game.

Edit: But hey, its something else off their to-do list which makes room for proper fixes, I guess. I read that next months patch will supposedly fix the tax bugs and land value issues.

[gosammy1971]

People cried for DLSS, now they have DLSS and these people cry DLSS is lame.

People cried for mods, code mods were released, these peoply cry "now mods should repair the game"

When you have a good CPU and you want better graphics or higher resolution you choose DLSS, when you have a slower CPU and slower memory then you choose TAA. I don't think that DLSS will slow the game when you use TAA or less antiaaliasing.

[𝓕𝔁]

Originally posted by gosammy1971:

People cried for DLSS, now they have DLSS and these people cry DLSS is lame.

What if.. nobody is crying.
What if, some people "cried" for it and others didn't!
What if, I always had the same opinion of DLSS and it being added just reinforced my opinion.

Show me a post where I cried for DLSS :D You won't find one.
I've always said it should only be added once the game is actually optimised, because as above, it doesn't help, it makes simulation performance worse (with a good cpu - i9 14900k)

You know there's an awful lot of people with interest in CS2, each with their own opinions.

[geekl33tgamer]

Originally posted by gosammy1971:

People cried for DLSS, now they have DLSS and these people cry DLSS is lame.

People cried for mods, code mods were released, these peoply cry "now mods should repair the game"

When you have a good CPU and you want better graphics or higher resolution you choose DLSS, when you have a slower CPU and slower memory then you choose TAA. I don't think that DLSS will slow the game when you use TAA or less antiaaliasing.

I can assure you it's a very vocal minority who 'cry' for DLSS needing to be in there. I wasn't one of them, as I don't care much for up-scalers and frame generation being used as a crutch to boost game performance.

The fact I'm seeing fanboys, sorry reviewers, on YT going on about DLSS making it playable is hilarious. They're often running RTX 4080 or better, but need DLSS to play at 1080 "almost smoothly". Give me a break. People shouldn't be spending 4080 money as an example on a GPU just to hit playable frames at up-scaled 1080 or 1440, because then it means in all instances they're actually rendering the game at the 720 resolution ballpark.

Defend the game all you want, but my point still stands: Fix the engine first to optimise performance. Too many games these days are using DLSS to make up for their own shortcomings.

Also, you spelt Anti-aliasing wrong.

[sanderrensink]

On my amd 5800 x rtx 3070 nvidia give the game my on the nvidia dlss superresolution max performance global graphics q high give my arond 50 or 60 fps on the newest drivers from nvidia

if you have a high end cpu i9 14900k or ig 13900k, you must some setting change in your bios for stable performance, there are some problems with this cpu in unreal engine, maybe you find solution on the internet.

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Originally posted by sanderrensink:

On my amd 5800 x rtx 3070 nvidia give the game my on the nvidia dlss superresolution max performance global graphics q high give my arond 50 or 60 fps on the newest drivers from nvidia

if you have a high end cpu i9 14900k or ig 13900k, you must some setting change in your bios for stable performance, there are some problems with this cpu in unreal engine, maybe you find solution on the internet.

There's two performance metrics.

FPS whereby for a game like this, 30 is fine, its not an FPS, of course, more is better, however, not at the cost of simulation performance, which is cpu bound.
The low FPS is mostly a consequence of poor cpu optimisation.

Slow simulation, such as running the game on quarter speed just to get 60fps is not worth it. DLSS takes 10%-20% from cpu performance. Its better getting 30 and faster simulation speed.

None of this is about properly setting up the bios - which sure, some people don't do and have problems, I get that, but those that do know how to setup their machines properly, still have poor simulation performance because the game is unoptimised and DLSS on top of that takes even more of the cpu cycles.

Open nvidia performance overlay Alt R and check cpu utilisation with/without DLSS on a city of say 1m population and you will see. Difference is huge.

[n3rd7]

So I went from 50 fps to an average of 120 fps just from actually setting my gpu setting up in the actual setting for my gpu not the game settings. The settings your gpu is set at is not the optimal settings for any game. Go on YouTube and search best settings for your gpu.

[n3rd7]

And dont use DLSS it makes it worse

[𝓕𝔁]

Originally posted by montanacowboy20:

So I went from 50 fps to an average of 120 fps just from actually setting my gpu setting up in the actual setting for my gpu not the game settings. The settings your gpu is set at is not the optimal settings for any game. Go on YouTube and search best settings for your gpu.

But what do you get with this save :P
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Yt_yoCvl90tjoOZ3zyIOsaiy8kSfJ6bO/view?usp=sharing