Anyone have a Intel 13600k or better

[likea357]

I'm just wondering if anyone has these processors an with the recent updates does someone have a devoloper mode to see what there actual simulation speed is

If so what processor are you using. I'm just wondering if is worth upgrading since the simulation is ridicously slow on a 9700k but have read others say they had modern processors an still slow

Would a 13600k me enough for a map of say 400k population

[Major Kudos™]

I built my first 2 Million population city with a 13600K 3060.

It did not get really slow until around 1.6 million.

IMHO the 13600K is a fantastic CPU for gaming. I also have an i9 12900k 3080 combo that cost 3 times as much and not as fast and is power hungry.

I would still be playing that city if the Beach Properties patch hadn't killed it. I have many more screenshots of this affordable CPU/GPU combo in use early in my CS2 profile.

Install it on an equally affordable and well featured Asrock MoBo and you have a budget jewel.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3145410688
However, your idea of slow is likely vastly different than mine. But the CPU and GPU is nonetheless a solid pair.

[rovaira2]

I have an I9 10900 KF @ 3.70 with a 3080 and it runs pretty well. This game can make the room warm though.

Just googling this and the one you mentioned is supposed to be better. I don't understand why I5s can be better than I9s. I don't research all this stuff, but one would think the I9s would be more powerful.

I'm going to replace one of our desktops this year anyway, so definitely going to make sure I get a good CPU.

[Major Kudos™]

Originally posted by rovaira2:

I have an I9 10900 KF @ 3.70 with a 3080 and it runs pretty well. This game can make the room warm though.

Just googling this and the one you mentioned is supposed to be better. I don't understand why I5s can be better than I9s. I don't research all this stuff, but one would think the I9s would be more powerful.

Nope not at all the gen 13 i5 blows away every processor before in speed power and efficiency.

However my new 14 gen i9 is back on top for now untill next gen i5.

[rovaira2]

I just realized my I9 is going on 4 years old now; hard to believe. My other desktop we don't use and it's probably like 10 years old. :) We have a laptop as well which is probably like 6 or more years old now.

[Major Kudos™]

Originally posted by rovaira2:

I just realized my I9 is going on 4 years old now; hard to believe. My other desktop we don't use and it's probably like 10 years old. :) We have a laptop as well which is probably like 6 or more years old now.

I hear ya. But just imagine how I felt just 8 months after spending 5k to build a top notch i9 12900k 3080 only to find the next gen i5 13600k 3060 system beat it in gaming (only) for half the Price!

From day 1 that i5 kicked the i9 all day long gaming in CS2. Still has a massive advantage using almost half the power.

Productivity wise the table turns massively back in favor of the 12900k.

[rovaira2]

Originally posted by Major Kudos™:

Originally posted by rovaira2:

I just realized my I9 is going on 4 years old now; hard to believe. My other desktop we don't use and it's probably like 10 years old. :) We have a laptop as well which is probably like 6 or more years old now.

I hear ya. But just imagine how I felt just 8 months after spending 5k to build a top notch i9 12900k 3080 only to find the next gen i5 13600k 3060 system beat it in gaming (only) for half the Price!

From day 1 that i5 kicked the i9 all day long gaming in CS2. Still has a massive advantage using almost half the power.

Productivity wise the table turns massively back in favor of the 12900k.

Does the newer models (like last 2-3) of the I9 do better than the I5? I plan on getting a new desktop later this year. Sucks though that I had to move because of smokers/marijuana users; rent went up from 2000 to 2700.

[BOT Lawrence]

Hey there. I am on a 13600 i5 and it runs slow. I have nothing to compare it to but have managed to get to a population of 250k and the simulation is slow af.

[Major Kudos™]

Originally posted by rovaira2:

Originally posted by Major Kudos™:

I hear ya. But just imagine how I felt just 8 months after spending 5k to build a top notch i9 12900k 3080 only to find the next gen i5 13600k 3060 system beat it in gaming (only) for half the Price!

From day 1 that i5 kicked the i9 all day long gaming in CS2. Still has a massive advantage using almost half the power.

Productivity wise the table turns massively back in favor of the 12900k.

Does the newer models (like last 2-3) of the I9 do better than the I5? I plan on getting a new desktop later this year. Sucks though that I had to move because of smokers/marijuana users; rent went up from 2000 to 2700.

Yes, I also have the latest i9 (14900K) that I have running in a city at 2.5 million pop.
It is much faster than my i5 13600K which struggles in a city that size, but to be clear even the i9 is choked by the game at times.

[Major Kudos™]

Originally posted by BOT Lawrence:

Hey there. I am on a 13600 i5 and it runs slow. I have nothing to compare it to but have managed to get to a population of 250k and the simulation is slow af.

Sorry to hear that. I would look for other areas as the problem.
My 13600K runs really well way over 750k Pop. Slow AF only occurs at 1.3m +- pop.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3138160270
Sub optimal City layout and design can have a greater impact on performance than the CPU ever would at only 250K pop.

[General Tso]

Originally posted by Major Kudos™:

Originally posted by rovaira2:

Does the newer models (like last 2-3) of the I9 do better than the I5? I plan on getting a new desktop later this year. Sucks though that I had to move because of smokers/marijuana users; rent went up from 2000 to 2700.

Yes, I also have the latest i9 (14900K) that I have running in a city at 2.5 million pop.
It is much faster than my i5 13600K which struggles in a city that size, but to be clear even the i9 is choked by the game at times.

Hey Major Kudos. Could you release a saved game from your 2.5 million city. Since it doesn't use any mods. It would make a great benchmark test. I'd like to see how well my system handles it.

[likea357]

I'm confused how does a 13600k beat a 12900k do you have water cooling or air anyone know of any articles about this just curios

If true than I'm kinda thinking that maybe this game doesn't use ecores or ecores well

[MisterLund]

My I9 14900KF with a Palit RTX 4080 and 32gb DDR5 ram, runs the game pretty smooth these days, heat dosent seem to be a huge problem, it keeps fine about 64-70 in long sessions, sometimes a bit higher but this seems to be the most normal range, got a good water cooling system tho, that might help it along

[Thisistheway]

i have a i9 13900KF with 4090, and 64 gb ram with 12 fans , and it does perfectly fine

[Apples]

Originally posted by likea357:

I'm confused how does a 13600k beat a 12900k do you have water cooling or air anyone know of any articles about this just curios

If true than I'm kinda thinking that maybe this game doesn't use ecores or ecores well

it's not massive difference between those, if the 13600k is better cooled it probably does reach it's highest speeds over someone using a poorly cooled 12900k, enough to beat it.

best going for an alternative cooling solution than the one provided anyway.

[Major Kudos™]

Originally posted by likea357:

I'm confused how does a 13600k beat a 12900k do you have water cooling or air anyone know of any articles about this just curios

If true than I'm kinda thinking that maybe this game doesn't use ecores or ecores well

The core count gap got a lot closer in the 13 Gen i5.

The 12900K is just not a great processor.
It was panned by the critics from day 1 as an extremely hot running inefficient CPU.
I own both and much prefer the 13600K for gaming and power efficency.

Conversely, Intel got it right with the 13600k. It punches well beyond its weight

All of my CPUs are attached to simple AIO coolers.

There are dozens of positive reviews on uTube. Also most enthusiast publications agree. Just google 13600K VS 12900K and you get an overwhelming flood favouring the 13600k.

For Gaming The 13600K always at least matches the 12900k at half the price and power consumption.

Productivity applications? the 12900K is usually the better performer but even now too costly. And not a good choice for gaming today given the superior performance of the next gen i9 13900k. It is cheaper faster and cooler than the 12900k and 13600k.