TRaffic makes no sence

[Tazca]

made a raised highway for traffic that is just going out of town that only has on ramps to it cause the main highway was backed up .. to get some traffic off it and now all the traffic shifted to the raised highway and going out of town and coming back in on the lower highway to get to where it wants to go even though the lower highway is empty now

[Billy Lee]

"you're building the system roads wrong"
"this is how they drive here (random place on the planet)"

basic comment about traffic
it doesn't make sense why?
you can remove the roads and the city will still do nothing about that,
and thousands of other problems, devs really worked hard to deliver a worse traffic system than in cs1

[Tazca]

it don't make scenes cause the upper highway only goes out of town no where else but all the traffic is on that highway going out of town even the traffic that want to go to other places in town

[Billy Lee]

browse all time the best graphic works, telling all about traffic in this crap game

[𝓕𝔁]

The best one is when you build a row of car parks and watch all the cars slow down, turn into the car park, proceed to the end slowly and exit slowly, as if they are somehow faster than the 50mph straight and empty road they turned off from.

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/vehicles-taking-weird-route-through-car-parks-bus-stations-instead-of-using-roads.1614574/post-29320848

Well designed traffic AI

[Bialar]

I can appreciate that an intelligent agent traffic AI in the context of a game like CS is probably not an easy problem to solve. I can't appreciate it regressing from CS1, where you still more or less have to use TPME to bandaid the worst of it.

"Smarter traffic AI" was at the top of my assumptions about what CS2 would offer, so it's just one more disappointment for the list.

[Tsubame ⭐]

Well, it does more than writing sense with a "c".

Without a screenshot to go by, I can only assume that the new routing is faster - in paper - and most vehicles changed paths due to that.

[moku]

Originally posted by Tazca:

made a raised highway for traffic that is just going out of town that only has on ramps to it cause the main highway was backed up .. to get some traffic off it and now all the traffic shifted to the raised highway and going out of town and coming back in on the lower highway to get to where it wants to go even though the lower highway is empty now

Can you show a picture of what went wrong vs. what it's supposed to look like ?

[mikelleh63]

Originally posted by Fx.:

The best one is when you build a row of car parks and watch all the cars slow down, turn into the car park, proceed to the end slowly and exit slowly, as if they are somehow faster than the 50mph straight and empty road they turned off from.

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/vehicles-taking-weird-route-through-car-parks-bus-stations-instead-of-using-roads.1614574/post-29320848

Well designed traffic AI

Replace the road. Problem solved. When placing the car parks you broke something in the road. The pathing option is lost. Demolish and run a fresh road.

[𝓕𝔁]

Originally posted by mikelleh63:

Originally posted by Fx.:

The best one is when you build a row of car parks and watch all the cars slow down, turn into the car park, proceed to the end slowly and exit slowly, as if they are somehow faster than the 50mph straight and empty road they turned off from.

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/vehicles-taking-weird-route-through-car-parks-bus-stations-instead-of-using-roads.1614574/post-29320848

Well designed traffic AI

Replace the road. Problem solved. When placing the car parks you broke something in the road. The pathing option is lost. Demolish and run a fresh road.

I broke something in the road?? By placing a car park alongside the road using the systems provided in order to do so?? It's not really intended (although possible) to place a car park, then add the road.

I think what you mean is, the games systems are broken, requiring you to something out of the ordinary without explanation or good reason. So, a bug!
FWIW, Replacing the road does not solve these sort of issues.
The traffic will choose to use a car park as a valid route, but just like zoning can change when making an alteration, so can preferred routes.

[Denim Chicken]

Originally posted by Fx.:

Originally posted by mikelleh63:

Replace the road. Problem solved. When placing the car parks you broke something in the road. The pathing option is lost. Demolish and run a fresh road.

I broke something in the road?? By placing a car park alongside the road using the systems provided in order to do so?? It's not really intended (although possible) to place a car park, then add the road.

I think what you mean is, the games systems are broken, requiring you to something out of the ordinary without explanation or good reason. So, a bug!
FWIW, Replacing the road does not solve these sort of issues.
The traffic will choose to use a car park as a valid route, but just like zoning can change when making an alteration, so can preferred routes.

There are no bugs here. You are just playing it wrong. /s

[mikelleh63]

Originally posted by 𝓕𝔁:

Originally posted by mikelleh63:

Replace the road. Problem solved. When placing the car parks you broke something in the road. The pathing option is lost. Demolish and run a fresh road.

I broke something in the road?? By placing a car park alongside the road using the systems provided in order to do so?? It's not really intended (although possible) to place a car park, then add the road.

I think what you mean is, the games systems are broken, requiring you to something out of the ordinary without explanation or good reason. So, a bug!
FWIW, Replacing the road does not solve these sort of issues.
The traffic will choose to use a car park as a valid route, but just like zoning can change when making an alteration, so can preferred routes.

Yes, there is a bug. I think I heard that somewhere. What I did, was offer a solution to the immediate issue. The car parks are there, traffic is using them as a road because there is some glitch in the road and cars dont see it as a viable option. That is a bug, there I admit it. THE SOLUTION is to demolish the road, replace it with the same road in the same place and it will work. Trust me. Sorry I dont want to join your revolution. There are enough people on here informing people the game sucks. I try to help people who ARE actually playing the game we have instead of howling about the game we were promised. Have fun storming the Castle!!

[𝓕𝔁]

Originally posted by mikelleh63:

Originally posted by 𝓕𝔁:

I broke something in the road?? By placing a car park alongside the road using the systems provided in order to do so?? It's not really intended (although possible) to place a car park, then add the road.

I think what you mean is, the games systems are broken, requiring you to something out of the ordinary without explanation or good reason. So, a bug!
FWIW, Replacing the road does not solve these sort of issues.
The traffic will choose to use a car park as a valid route, but just like zoning can change when making an alteration, so can preferred routes.

Yes, there is a bug. I think I heard that somewhere. What I did, was offer a solution to the immediate issue. The car parks are there, traffic is using them as a road because there is some glitch in the road and cars dont see it as a viable option. That is a bug, there I admit it. THE SOLUTION is to demolish the road, replace it with the same road in the same place and it will work. Trust me. Sorry I dont want to join your revolution. There are enough people on here informing people the game sucks. I try to help people who ARE actually playing the game we have instead of howling about the game we were promised. Have fun storming the Castle!!

No need to join the revolution or storm the castle :) But trying to make out a bug in a game is somehow my fault sounds like the CEO saying the launch disaster is also my/our fault as customers. I took it that way because it also happened when reporting bugs on the forums, with video evidence, along come those saying "yeah but its your fault, do this, do that, it will fix it" when the issues materialise on their own. Having to build and rebuild everything because plopping something broke other things, is just a pita and why I don't actively play atm.

I appreciate the workaround to mitigate the game issue, though.

[mikelleh63]

Originally posted by 𝓕𝔁:

Originally posted by mikelleh63:

Yes, there is a bug. I think I heard that somewhere. What I did, was offer a solution to the immediate issue. The car parks are there, traffic is using them as a road because there is some glitch in the road and cars dont see it as a viable option. That is a bug, there I admit it. THE SOLUTION is to demolish the road, replace it with the same road in the same place and it will work. Trust me. Sorry I dont want to join your revolution. There are enough people on here informing people the game sucks. I try to help people who ARE actually playing the game we have instead of howling about the game we were promised. Have fun storming the Castle!!

No need to join the revolution or storm the castle :) But trying to make out a bug in a game is somehow my fault sounds like the CEO saying the launch disaster is also my/our fault as customers. I took it that way because it also happened when reporting bugs on the forums, with video evidence, along come those saying "yeah but its your fault, do this, do that, it will fix it" when the issues materialise on their own. Having to build and rebuild everything because plopping something broke other things, is just a pita and why I don't actively play atm.

I appreciate the workaround to mitigate the game issue, though.

That is what I try to do. Clearly you are still playing the game. There must be something good. Unfortunately, that labels you a heretic and a fanboy to the 'toxic' element. I am just hoping for better. After waiting this long, if the first 'big fix' is as much of a nothingburger as the WOTW has become I may just bow out.

[𝓕𝔁]

Originally posted by mikelleh63:

That is what I try to do. Clearly you are still playing the game. There must be something good. Unfortunately, that labels you a heretic and a fanboy to the 'toxic' element. I am just hoping for better. After waiting this long, if the first 'big fix' is as much of a nothingburger as the WOTW has become I may just bow out.

Honestly, I wish I was. I've fired it up to check once or twice, but I have not played since the end of Jan (non-patch patch day) because there's just too much wrong with it atm, the patch made everything worse for me, it crashes quite frequently now, whereas I had never had any crashes since launch, not to mention the patch not actually fixing anything of substance. Still. There could have been something good, its just not materialising yet.