i7 12700k to i9 14900k

[River]

Would this help a little or a lot in Cities Skylines 2 ?

I play at 3440x1440.

Video card is RTX 4090 if that matters sorry.

[River]

I tried looking for tests/benchmarks but could not find any. Sadly.

It is ok though.

[Oracle]

nope

[GnuHorn]

It'll have some impact, but how much is debatable and will mostly depend on if you've built your cooling solution out to handle the extra heat generation. It'll be less obvious in the graphical output, I would think, given that at that resolution your GPU is going to be maxed, but you might notice some improvement of performance from the simulation itself... though whether you will notice is another question entirely.

The added heating, if not handled with an overbuilt cooling solution, will probably introduce throttling, though. An i9 should be a toastier setup than an i7.

[CH13F]

im using 12700kf u can easily run it at 5.1ghz with a decent 420mm watercooler at max 40 degrees during load.
that i9 14900k on the other hand is twice expensive and way overkill for gaming purposes. if you aint a streamer, forget that chip.

also if you re not going to overclock forget k version and save some bucks and you dont really need integrated intel video chip, so prefer f version.

[River]

Originally posted by GnuHorn:

It'll have some impact, but how much is debatable and will mostly depend on if you've built your cooling solution out to handle the extra heat generation. It'll be less obvious in the graphical output, I would think, given that at that resolution your GPU is going to be maxed, but you might notice some improvement of performance from the simulation itself... though whether you will notice is another question entirely.

The added heating, if not handled with an overbuilt cooling solution, will probably introduce throttling, though. An i9 should be a toastier setup than an i7.

Thanks.

Wish there was benchmarks or a comparison somewhere for in the game Cities Skylines 2. Like the minimum fps.

[River]

Originally posted by CH13F:

im using 12700kf u can easily run it at 5.1ghz with a decent 420mm watercooler.
that i9 14900k is twice expensive and way overkill for gaming purposes.

also if you re not going to overclock forget k version and save some bucks and you dont really need integrated intel video chip, so prefer f version.

I agree it is overkill right now.

May just go i7 14700k because I really don't want the extra heat and like you said i9 14900k is overkill.

[CH13F]

yes, 12700k cant be cooled effectively with aircooler or anything below 420mm radiator. trust me i tried. other than that i agree 14700k s a good choice. it allows ddr5 rams, im still on ddr4 at least i was when i built my latest rig last year when ddr5 wasnt that common.
other than that ,its a bit power hungry during boost. but not that much. it d be definetly in my choices if i d like to upgrade my rig to ddr5

[martinolund]

Originally posted by CH13F:

yes, 12700k cant be cooled effectively with aircooler or anything below 420mm radiator. trust me i tried.

Perhaps you got one of the CPU's that bends when installing it. There is a special 12th Gen CPU Bending Corrector Frame you can buy and that fixes the issue. Or like you say, stay away from that CPU all together :)

[CH13F]

Originally posted by martinolund:

Originally posted by CH13F:

yes, 12700k cant be cooled effectively with aircooler or anything below 420mm radiator. trust me i tried.

Perhaps you got one of the CPU's that bends when installing it. There is a special 12th Gen CPU Bending Corrector Frame you can buy and that fixes the issue. Or like you say, stay away from that CPU all together :)

nah no bent pins,or anything, i thought about that and checked before. its just my aim was to get around 50degrees during gaming. otherwise sure it works with other coolers but i d not call 70-80 degrees a cooling really. its a personal choice. no wonder they dont include stock intel coolers in packaging anymore, they re pretty much obsolete at this point.

[¤ OpN ¤]

might as well 7950x3d..... When really a 13700k or 7800x3d are better bang for your buck the upgrade isnt really there but if you want the end of life chip before you have to upgrade the board again next gen then go for it.

[SIX]

Would be bad a pointless upgrade.

[MarkJohnson]

Originally posted by gamer:

Would this help a little or a lot in Cities Skylines 2 ?

I play at 3440x1440.

Video card is RTX 4090 if that matters sorry.

Going from 12900k to 14900k just isn't worth the cost. Performance won't be significant enough to warrant an upgrade already. Definitely wait for 15th gen, as 14th gen was a re-release of 13th gen with minor 100mhz clock boost.

[playboi14]

I'm also playing on an ultrawide 3440x1440 using a 13900k and an 4090 and with the recommended settings at 500k population I'm still CPU and GPU bottlenecked.

At that size I'm getting around 45-65 FPS as I zoom in and out and move around. It's highly unstable, sometimes hanging around the high 50s / low 60s while other times dipping. This is using the 500k sample city also so it's fairly representative of what you can expect.

The simulation at that size needs optimisation, almost every single core is at 100% usage. The 14900k is apparently 6-8% faster in multicore workloads so at the best case you'll see some decent uplift over my machine.

I think we're a fair amount way away from having a solid locked 60 FPS in large bustling cities unfortunately

[风吹姬吧蛋狂摇]

7900xt 14700KF is here, the current population is 530,000, obviously the CPU is more important, it directly determines the running speed, and even 14900K, or the CPU released next year, is not enough to drive this game to run smoothly with a large population. You need 5090, 6090 and CPUs released in 2026！

[archonsod]

Originally posted by CH13F:

nah no bent pins,or anything, i thought about that and checked before.

It's not the pins, it's the chip that bends. The clamps on the side of the socket exert a bit too much pressure which leads to the die bending slightly around those, which affects contact with the heat plate (though there's fixes available, including just using more thermal paste).

its just my aim was to get around 50degrees during gaming.

Why? The chip itself is designed to run up to 100C with an optimal efficiency point around 75C. While you probably could keep it to under 50 with a hardcore cooling solution, you'd actually be gimping the chips efficiency in doing so, at which point it's probably cheaper and easier to just underclock it. Same end result either way.