Game is a 100k-200k population simulator

[c0hKaine]

The game is CPU bound. I notice a significant slow down. This means the game is not properly managing resources (obviously). So read the title. I think that's about the average?

[Zero, Dark Knight]

All games are bound by the hardware, yes, this isn't anything new or unexpected.
In-fact it's a downright obvious statement.
"Why won't my calculator run Cities Skyline 2?"
:-l
the game is using the resources it's given, mismanagement isn't the case, it's a case of hard limit. Want more stuff? buy better tech.

It's a game designed for future tech, which barely runs today.

Regardless of if you hate me, disagree with me, or approve of what I say, or like what I say.

It's a simple fact that CS2 is a game designed for 2028~ and on-wards.

[c0hKaine]

Did you read the title?

[Bumeyes]

What's your CPU/RAM usage?

[Zero, Dark Knight]

Originally posted by c0hKaine:

Did you read the title?

There is no "average" on a game where there is no hard cap.

That's not how mathematics works.

Thus my answer is the closest I can give you to a truth.

[c0hKaine]

Originally posted by Bumeyes:

What's your CPU/RAM usage?

5.5ghz/99%
DDR5/16gb 78%

[Bumeyes]

Originally posted by c0hKaine:

Originally posted by Bumeyes:

What's your CPU/RAM usage?

5.5ghz/99%
DDR5/16gb 78%

I'd be looking at upgrading to 32gb RAM personally, I have a 11k pop city at the moment and its using 14gb of my 32GB.
How many cores does your CPU have? CS2 is one of the few games that actually utilises multiple cores.

[c0hKaine]

Originally posted by Bumeyes:

Originally posted by c0hKaine:

5.5ghz/99%
DDR5/16gb 78%

I'd be looking at upgrading to 32gb RAM personally, I have a 11k pop city at the moment and its using 14gb of my 32GB.
How many cores does your CPU have? CS2 is one of the few games that actually utilises multiple cores.

I am not RAM bound clearly. Also I have an M.2 drive so virtual paging is not a huge issue for me. So no, my ram is fine. My CPU is a hexcore Ryzen 7 7700x

[rochetjeremy]

I had a ryzen 5900x used at 90-100%
I upgraded it to a ryxen 9 7950x3d, used now on the same city (340k) at 50%
But with a too good config, you need to limit fps to 30/35 or the game is crashing ramdomly because of framerate changes.
Think about limiting fps if you upgrade your cpu !

[c0hKaine]

Originally posted by rochetjeremy:

I had a ryzen 5900x used at 90-100%
I upgraded it to a ryxen 9 7950x3d,

Nice chip. I wish I went with the expanded processor cache now.

[Sherrif]

Originally posted by c0hKaine:

Originally posted by Bumeyes:

What's your CPU/RAM usage?

5.5ghz/99%
DDR5/16gb 78%

you definitely need more ram

Your ram usage is dangerously high, which will cause more strain on your CPU as it has to start loading and unloading more blocks of memory. Simplest fix to get a higher population without slowdown is get more ram.

As for the title of your post, this is a you problem, it's a demanding game for CPU as is any simulation game. At least you're aware of what causes performance to drag in this game and not like most of the idiots saying "my 4090 can't run it" not even telling people about the CPU, which is the most important piece for this game.

Your CPU may not be up to scratch for the task, but if your ram usage hits the 90% range things start crashing so your computer will automatically close down bits of memory to keep it under that range.

[c0hKaine]

Originally posted by Sherrif:

Originally posted by c0hKaine:

5.5ghz/99%
DDR5/16gb 78%

you definitely need more ram

Your ram usage is dangerously high, which will cause more strain on your CPU as it has to start loading and unloading more blocks of memory. Simplest fix to get a higher population without slowdown is get more ram.

As for the title of your post, this is a you problem, it's a demanding game for CPU as is any simulation game. At least you're aware of what causes performance to drag in this game and not like most of the idiots saying "my 4090 can't run it" not even telling people about the CPU, which is the most important piece for this game.

Your CPU may not be up to scratch for the task, but if your ram usage hits the 90% range things start crashing so your computer will automatically close down bits of memory to keep it under that range.

I like how you say all of this without referencing any code-specific issues. The variables I put forth to you are too much to have made your response just now. I want you to take a second and breathe.

[Bumeyes]

16GB RAM on CS2 is laughable. It's 2023 bro, come on.

[Zero, Dark Knight]

Originally posted by Sherrif:

Originally posted by c0hKaine:

5.5ghz/99%
DDR5/16gb 78%

you definitely need more ram

Your ram usage is dangerously high, which will cause more strain on your CPU as it has to start loading and unloading more blocks of memory. Simplest fix to get a higher population without slowdown is get more ram.

As for the title of your post, this is a you problem, it's a demanding game for CPU as is any simulation game. At least you're aware of what causes performance to drag in this game and not like most of the idiots saying "my 4090 can't run it" not even telling people about the CPU, which is the most important piece for this game.

Your CPU may not be up to scratch for the task, but if your ram usage hits the 90% range things start crashing so your computer will automatically close down bits of memory to keep it under that range.

He wants to be told his PC is good and everything is the games fault.

That's why he thinks 100k-200k is 'the right number'' as per his title of thread, which, it's not, it can't be, because if it's CPU based (as you and I both know it is.) then there can be no average, only the maximum allowed by that specific PC. Anyway, peace - good luck trying to make horses drink and all those other metaphors which apply.

[c0hKaine]

Originally posted by Bumeyes:

16GB RAM on CS2 is laughable. It's 2023 bro, come on.

No it isn't? There is no slow down on my desktop hence there are multiple culling problems in their graphics pipeline. Also some terrible pathfinding algorithm leaking memory (or did you forget they had to hotfix that twice? oops)?

[c0hKaine]

Originally posted by Zero, Dark Knight:

Originally posted by Sherrif:

you definitely need more ram

Your ram usage is dangerously high, which will cause more strain on your CPU as it has to start loading and unloading more blocks of memory. Simplest fix to get a higher population without slowdown is get more ram.

As for the title of your post, this is a you problem, it's a demanding game for CPU as is any simulation game. At least you're aware of what causes performance to drag in this game and not like most of the idiots saying "my 4090 can't run it" not even telling people about the CPU, which is the most important piece for this game.

Your CPU may not be up to scratch for the task, but if your ram usage hits the 90% range things start crashing so your computer will automatically close down bits of memory to keep it under that range.

He wants to be told his PC is good and everything is the games fault.

That's why he thinks 100k-200k is 'the right number'' as per his title of thread, which, it's not, it can't be, because if it's CPU based (as you and I both know it is.) then there can be no average, only the maximum allowed by that specific PC. Anyway, peace - good luck trying to make horses drink and all those other metaphors which apply.

Games cant be CPU bound according to this genius. Let it be known that software interfaces perfectly with hardware.