Has any of you tried the Developer mode in cities skyline 2?

[LION HEART]

Have any of you tried developer mode? Is it safe to use it without crashing the save? Can the dev mode break the PC? I want to use the surface to make the city look better.

[Kedryn]

I used it briefly to do the map editor to change the hemisphere of a map or two.

Will mess with surfaces later.

[The Quiet Cab]

I used it to look what's in there and I actually ended up using two things. In GameRendering/Shaders I deactived the hair of the cims ^^ and in economy I enabled superfast building which means zoning spawns buildings in 3 seconds,

[Funnybear]

Yea. But using it will upset you. Because you realise it's all there. Right there. Everything. I won't even pretend to know what any of it does, but some youtube stuff will help you navigate the easy stuff.

But fundamentally, they released a game that isn't a game. It literally is just a screenshot producer.

It doesn't simulate a city. But it's all there, under the hood. Someone put alot of hard work and effort into making this a city simulator, and someone took an executive decision to knock all the 'game' out of it.

It's such a bizarre business choice. I say 'business' because it sure as hell ain't an artistic decision. I consider what these guys do an art, to make a complete game work on many levels, from an aesthetic to a fundamental simulation level is pure artistry.

But, someone, somewhere took a monumental decision to completely neuter CS2 on release.

Some of you younger bright sparks of the future could use those dev tools to make the game that was originally designed shine bright in the darkness for a brief period of time before the corporate wankers smash the joy out of it yet again.

If you have the patience to work out everything in the dev kit, then explore it. But you'll be so disappointing by what you see.

[mooD mooD]

Originally posted by Funnybear:

Yea. But using it will upset you. Because you realise it's all there. Right there. Everything. I won't even pretend to know what any of it does, but some youtube stuff will help you navigate the easy stuff.

But fundamentally, they released a game that isn't a game. It literally is just a screenshot producer.

It doesn't simulate a city. But it's all there, under the hood. Someone put alot of hard work and effort into making this a city simulator, and someone took an executive decision to knock all the 'game' out of it.

It's such a bizarre business choice. I say 'business' because it sure as hell ain't an artistic decision. I consider what these guys do an art, to make a complete game work on many levels, from an aesthetic to a fundamental simulation level is pure artistry.

But, someone, somewhere took a monumental decision to completely neuter CS2 on release.

Some of you younger bright sparks of the future could use those dev tools to make the game that was originally designed shine bright in the darkness for a brief period of time before the corporate wankers smash the joy out of it yet again.

If you have the patience to work out everything in the dev kit, then explore it. But you'll be so disappointing by what you see.

I don't know how true what you're saying is but if they did neuter the game they wouldn't just do it for no reason. They probably disabled a lot of aspects of simulation due to performance issue. I agree that is very ♥♥♥♥♥♥ but it doesn't mean that they won't add these features back later on

[tilarium]

Originally posted by Kedryn:

I used it briefly to do the map editor to change the hemisphere of a map or two.

Will mess with surfaces later.

Can you give a step by step of how?

I tried to do it, copied the latitude and longitude numbers from a northern hemisphere map and then changed a southern hemisphere map to use those numbers but it didn't do anything. Is there something other then the lat/lon numbers that needs to be changed? Does the map need to be ran for a certain length of time to get the changes to kick in?

My favorite maps to play are all southern hemisphere which I just can't wrap my brain around.

[Kedryn]

I paused the game
I went into dev tools
I went into "simulation"
I went into "time"
I changed "latitude" from a negative number to a positive number
I unpaused the game and watched the sun immediately glide from winter position to summer position

You can do this in the map editor or even just a regular game you're already playing and it will be permanent.

[tilarium]

That's what I'm doing too but the game game never switches from summer to winter for me. The barrier island map starts in Jan, so summer in the stupid upside down hemisphere.

[Kedryn]

Did you have "override time for debug" ticked?

[tilarium]

Originally posted by Kedryn:

Did you have "override time for debug" ticked?

I've tried both with and without that ticked. To be clear, I do get the sun moving as I make the change. What doesn't change is in the bottom menu where it shows the temperature and the season, that's where it isn't changing for me.

[Cosmic Sea]

How would a video game "break your pc?" Sorry but that doesn't even make sense. If you're concerned about it possibly breaking a save, just keep backups and save often.

[Major Kudos™]

I don't want to risk ruining a game I have spent 800 hours on just before massive update. Not worth the panic to save every 5 minutes.

I will wait for sanctioned modders only on the official site.

[Stealthy]

Originally posted by Funnybear:

Yea. But using it will upset you. Because you realise it's all there. Right there. Everything. I won't even pretend to know what any of it does, but some youtube stuff will help you navigate the easy stuff.

But fundamentally, they released a game that isn't a game. It literally is just a screenshot producer.

It doesn't simulate a city. But it's all there, under the hood. Someone put alot of hard work and effort into making this a city simulator, and someone took an executive decision to knock all the 'game' out of it.

It's such a bizarre business choice. I say 'business' because it sure as hell ain't an artistic decision. I consider what these guys do an art, to make a complete game work on many levels, from an aesthetic to a fundamental simulation level is pure artistry.

But, someone, somewhere took a monumental decision to completely neuter CS2 on release.

Some of you younger bright sparks of the future could use those dev tools to make the game that was originally designed shine bright in the darkness for a brief period of time before the corporate wankers smash the joy out of it yet again.

If you have the patience to work out everything in the dev kit, then explore it. But you'll be so disappointing by what you see.

Totally. And this is why I believe that CO wanted to release this much later, my bet is on 10th anniversary of C:S1, March 2025. But PDX pulled rank and forced it out. CO had to disable ton of stuff and focus on getting the game at some playable state so that it could be launched.

[Kedryn]

Originally posted by tilarium:

Originally posted by Kedryn:

Did you have "override time for debug" ticked?

I've tried both with and without that ticked. To be clear, I do get the sun moving as I make the change. What doesn't change is in the bottom menu where it shows the temperature and the season, that's where it isn't changing for me.

Ooooh, I forgot about the seasons. Yeah, those are attached to "climate" which can only be changed in the map editor. It's a bit silly that only the sun is attached to latitude.

[Cosmic Sea]

Originally posted by Major Kudos™:

I don't want to risk ruining a game I have spent 800 hours on just before massive update. Not worth the panic to save every 5 minutes.

I will wait for sanctioned modders only on the official site.

Dev mode has nothing to do with modding/modders. And the modders creating many of these current mods are the exact same modders who are "sanctioned" and are in the beta.

[tilarium]

Originally posted by Kedryn:

Originally posted by tilarium:

I've tried both with and without that ticked. To be clear, I do get the sun moving as I make the change. What doesn't change is in the bottom menu where it shows the temperature and the season, that's where it isn't changing for me.

Ooooh, I forgot about the seasons. Yeah, those are attached to "climate" which can only be changed in the map editor. It's a bit silly that only the sun is attached to latitude.

THANK YOU! At least now I know I'm not doing anything wrong and have a new avenue to explore. What is this map editor you speak off?