"paradox launcher"

[Monarchco]

Seriously?

I install every single steam game with "create desktop shortcut" unchecked.
I don't do this so the game can go around and create its own launcher shortcut the second you launch it.

This is major scummy behavior.

edit: this is also not like the creative assembly/total war launcher.

This is a standalone launcher, like GOG Galaxy, EA Origin, or uplay. This launcher has its own store it tries to shove you into, and doesn't even list CS2 when I launch it rofl.

The game literally is installing adware on your computer.

[heystivie]

That's correct. It only shows up in the launcher when I start it via Steam.

[Creamy P1e Skwert]

I hope the modders add surface painter and move-it mod for the buildings. Because these gaps are wiln' out.

[Gboines]

Not stand-alone soon bc editor mods etc will be in launcher but one can remove launcher like in cs1. Very easy to do

https://github.com/shusaura85/notparadoxlauncher

[ViraCorp]

You can skip the launcher and boot right into the game.

Add this to the Launch Option in Steam under properties.

"C:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Cities Skylines II\Cities2.exe" %command%

You have to replace it with wherever you have skylines installed.

[Creamy P1e Skwert]

Originally posted by ViraCorp:

You can skip the launcher and boot right into the game.

Add this to the Launch Option in Steam under properties.

"C:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Cities Skylines II\Cities2.exe" %command%

You have to replace it with wherever you have skylines installed.

I don't get people's problems with the launcher, I think it looks modernistic and works very well with me tbh. I'm sorry archaic ways are stuck in your minds.

This reminds me of stubborn Win7 users who refused to switch.

[Monarchco]

Originally posted by ViraCorp:

You can skip the launcher and boot right into the game.

Add this to the Launch Option in Steam under properties.

"C:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Cities Skylines II\Cities2.exe" %command%

You have to replace it with wherever you have skylines installed.

You don't have the slightest idea what I'm talking about.

I'm not talking about this: https://i.imgur.com/1AOO5f4.jpeg that pops up when I launch the game on steam.

I'm talking about this: https://i.imgur.com/wVZkcLd.jpeg that showed up on my desktop only after installing CS2 (no other paradox games even played, let alone downloaded recently).

[ViraCorp]

Originally posted by Monarchco:

Originally posted by ViraCorp:

You can skip the launcher and boot right into the game.

Add this to the Launch Option in Steam under properties.

"C:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Cities Skylines II\Cities2.exe" %command%

You have to replace it with wherever you have skylines installed.

You don't have the slightest idea what I'm talking about.

I'm not talking about this: https://i.imgur.com/1AOO5f4.jpeg that pops up when I launch the game on steam.

I'm talking about this: https://i.imgur.com/wVZkcLd.jpeg that showed up on my desktop only after installing CS2 (no other paradox games even played, let alone downloaded recently).

Wierd, I have nothing like that on my desktop, and I ahve multiple paradox games.

[Monarchco]

Originally posted by ViraCorp:

Originally posted by Monarchco:

You don't have the slightest idea what I'm talking about.

I'm not talking about this: https://i.imgur.com/1AOO5f4.jpeg that pops up when I launch the game on steam.

I'm talking about this: https://i.imgur.com/wVZkcLd.jpeg that showed up on my desktop only after installing CS2 (no other paradox games even played, let alone downloaded recently).

Wierd, I have nothing like that on my desktop, and I ahve multiple paradox games.

It is clear to me it came from CS2. Maybe the launcher auto-updates and automatically spits out a desktop shortcut because paradox is a prick like that.

[tcassat]

Originally posted by Monarchco:

This launcher has its own store it tries to shove you into, and doesn't even list CS2 when I launch it rofl.

The old idea of making and selling games as a business is just for smaller companies and indie developers. Mega-corporations that have gone public like Paradox cannot resist predatory practices. Investors will continue to wonder why the company cares about childish things like "gameplay and future of the games" instead of important things like business measures to increase return on investment (I'm not making this s#it up, there are reports of Nintendo shareholders saying this, which I initially thought was a parody), and the company will continue to look for ways to push players' patience to the limit.

The current games reality is s#it, I'll tell you...

[rubbaduck]

Originally posted by FondledCows:

Originally posted by ViraCorp:

You can skip the launcher and boot right into the game.

Add this to the Launch Option in Steam under properties.

"C:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Cities Skylines II\Cities2.exe" %command%

You have to replace it with wherever you have skylines installed.

I don't get people's problems with the launcher, I think it looks modernistic and works very well with me tbh. I'm sorry archaic ways are stuck in your minds.

This reminds me of stubborn Win7 users who refused to switch.

Well, you may like it or not... the one and only reason why those launchers exist is to exfiltrate "telemetry data" from you local PC. Paradox is logging there attempts to send "telemetry" through their launcher on your local harddrive, so it is clearly visible. And I don't want any software to send data home without my explicit approval. I don't know what they are sending...

And... there are laws. GDPR in Europe for example, that also applies to game publishers. And one of those laws say, the user has to be informed and to consent BEFORE sending any "telemetry data". This does not even happen! You start the game, but it does not start. Instead it installs software without asking and then immediately starts to send data to prod-telemetry.paradox-interactive.com. This is simply unacceptabel behaviour.

You might say, "Hey its just anonymous data that someone started the game" or whatever. But users cannot really check if this is true! And even if Paradox has the best intentions (if they had, why are they hiding it? ), this software might have security holes putting users at risk or send personal information accidentally (e.g. in crashdumps).

So I would recommend to anyone: Secure you PC and network. Block all traffic on default and whitelist trustworthy software only. Use ad blockers and DNS blockers. And best... avoid publishers that do shady things, like Paradox.

[Azra]

the launcher is needed for the pay-to-mod store in the future, steam does not allow publishers to charge money for community-made mods or assets.

[Cosmic Sea]

It's not really that big of a deal tbh. Lots of things to complain about with this game but the launcher is pretty low on the list.

[General T.Montana Tropic Thunder]

Originally posted by Cosmic Sea:

It's not really that big of a deal tbh. Lots of things to complain about with this game but the launcher is pretty low on the list.

How big is the Paradox launcher to install ?
Can it be compared with this massive one ?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/949230/eventcomments/4041481833173630921?snr=1_5_9_&ctp=10

[☠ Xenith Xenaku ☠]

Originally posted by Azra:

the launcher is needed for the pay-to-mod store in the future, steam does not allow publishers to charge money for community-made mods or assets.

Not paying for mods! Another reason to skip it.
Thank you for adding that to my list of reasons to skip it (alongside wasting your time).