Cities: Skylines II

Cities: Skylines II

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Wounded Knee Oct 29, 2023 @ 12:58am
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shame on all the youtube channels for not saying how the economy is broken.
performance issues aside. the game is fundamentally broken. master city builders from youtube can barely have a postive cash flow for more than 5 minutes yet not one of them said the economy was broken. shame on all of them. Biffa, city planner, conflict nerd etc.
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[CH]the_minimalist Oct 29, 2023 @ 1:01am 
circle wank as usually
they all have no idea
just the money in front
Abrexus Oct 29, 2023 @ 1:12am 
Well you really can't blame them for keeping quiet. Their livelihood is tied to the success of this franchise. If this sequel tanks so does their source of income.
Römsen Oct 29, 2023 @ 1:20am 
Originally posted by Wounded Knee:
performance issues aside. the game is fundamentally broken. master city builders from youtube can barely have a postive cash flow for more than 5 minutes yet not one of them said the economy was broken. shame on all of them. Biffa, city planner, conflict nerd etc.

YEP. Take my points.

A few streamers quickly moved on to the next game. Sure, the cow has been milked.
And the other streamers who play it defend it or overplay it. In one video, the streamer simply skips the revenue from the subsidies from the state. Sure, no need to explain that the city is artificially kept alive no matter what you do... would expose the whole fake show. No one, really no one will go broke in this casual game. Only in a later hardmode... eventually... xD

For me the performance was never a reason to complain, but this "gameplay" is annoying me as a CS1'ler of the first hour.

:angrypolitician:
frostie Oct 29, 2023 @ 1:32am 
I havent noticed any issues with economy. Performs as I would expect. Played the hell out of CS1 and this seems similar in terms of cash flow.
Licenturion Oct 29, 2023 @ 1:33am 
Most of these streamers and PDX hired content creators, are not gamers but diorama decorators. I bet even half of them didn’t notice that the simulation is broken.

They rather spend an hour making a highway crossing instead of making a viable economy.
Römsen Oct 29, 2023 @ 1:36am 
Originally posted by frostie102:
I havent noticed any issues with economy. Performs as I would expect. Played the hell out of CS1 and this seems similar in terms of cash flow.

Take a closer look... xD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDwfik0p6oQ
FlussDerivat505 Oct 29, 2023 @ 1:39am 
Guess it will be fixed soon. Hopefully.
Steefy_92 Oct 29, 2023 @ 1:49am 
Originally posted by Wounded Knee:
performance issues aside. the game is fundamentally broken. master city builders from youtube can barely have a postive cash flow for more than 5 minutes yet not one of them said the economy was broken. shame on all of them. Biffa, city planner, conflict nerd etc.

That's not true though. Several of them pointed out and the biggest reason are bugs which you can read about from official developer reply, but hey, why bother looking

With that said my city of 17k is steadily generating 8k (in plus) money for several hours now. It took a lot of work to get there but it's possible...
Last edited by Steefy_92; Oct 29, 2023 @ 1:51am
Sacb0y Oct 29, 2023 @ 1:55am 
Originally posted by Römsen:
Originally posted by frostie102:
I havent noticed any issues with economy. Performs as I would expect. Played the hell out of CS1 and this seems similar in terms of cash flow.

Take a closer look... xD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDwfik0p6oQ

So you can brute force the game with raw population? yes i'm sure youtubers would try this lol.

he said he was getting 1000 people and growing but 980 of that was births, not people moving in. His population would likely collapse eventually.

Businesses don't get bankrupt but they don't generate taxes, i don't think thats the game not working it's probably the subsidies at play. In CS1 they would just collapse in rebuild over and over again which is not any less silly.

The only reason he's still making money is population, service trade (meaning he didn't get rid of services or is trading electricity), And government subsidies just barely putting him in positive.

Outside of massive debt you can't climb out of even CS1 didn't really have a failure state.

Also 4 months in comparison to CS1 is like 4 hours compared to 30 minutes...

I don't understand whats surprising in this video...
Last edited by Sacb0y; Oct 29, 2023 @ 1:57am
Steefy_92 Oct 29, 2023 @ 4:06am 
Also here is the example, just in case you think I am making up stuff (this is 12k + right now)

https://imgur.com/a/RB22YPC

Never took a loan and as you can see zero Gov Subsidies. Key is to get those office buildings demand rolling (I haven't lowered a single service budget, otherwise I would be well over 30k)

Public transport and education so you can drain well-educated, high educated population, just like in real life
OtterSwag Oct 29, 2023 @ 4:12am 
30k is just getting started tho, check back on the cheesing methods at a big city, like 200-300k+
Steefy_92 Oct 29, 2023 @ 4:14am 
I saw it, ImKibitz even went as far as 750k + in plus and his cities are not at all hat much sprawled across map (though have around 25k pop)

My city is not the most efficient city, in fact I am surprised it's doing as well as it does (in every regard), so it took awhile from minus, since I took a lot of wrong turns to get there.
Last edited by Steefy_92; Oct 29, 2023 @ 4:16am
Billy Lee Oct 29, 2023 @ 4:21am 
I can't find it, but I saw a video on YT somewhere on how to manage your budget? what's the point if you don't have to build anything from public service or even industry. These are scammers who play a different game than us
nZ RaifalM3n Oct 29, 2023 @ 4:33am 
because youtubers are ♥♥♥♥ and lie on purpose. They care about money and thats all. Most of them share the same ♥♥♥♥ content every day. Stop listening to youtubers.
Steefy_92 Oct 29, 2023 @ 4:35am 
Originally posted by Billy Lee:
I can't find it, but I saw a video on YT somewhere on how to manage your budget? what's the point if you don't have to build anything from public service or even industry. These are scammers who play a different game than us

But that's literally how I have my budget, services, public transport and industry (and reaping off business and citizens, because why not) ... play however you want but it's possible - when they resolve bugs it will be easier or harder, I am not sure to be frank we will see and they will probably tweak and release more in depth DLC sometime in future, and if you want to use cheesy methods go ahead.

That aside, compared to CS economy, CS2 actually has it - say whatever you want about imbalance and that it's not working completely
Last edited by Steefy_92; Oct 29, 2023 @ 4:40am
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