Save 22% Seems a Scammy and Potentially Illegal Practice

[andrfgs]

Cities: Skylines II - Ultimate Edition is reported to cost 89,99$/€ as of 13 June 2023 with a strike-through price of 116$/€ which is a seemingly 22% decrease in price.

There's a problem, though. The game hasn't been out yet and never costed in fact 116$/€, so this is an illegal practice in EU countries (and some other countries outside the EU too) because its a false discount. Even if this practice was legal it is at best ethically questionable. Is this how Colossal Order and Paradox want to treat customers who are likely to pay for the Ultimate Edition?

[Truffletoot]

It's a pre order. In total, if you were to buy the content of the ultimate edition separately(At release of course), it would cost $116.

[Zuul]

Nothing illegal about it.

It doesn't matter if it's never been for sale BEFORE, it matters what the normal price of the product is. If the regular price after release is going to be 116, then it's legal. If the regular price after release is going to be 89.99 and they're just showing 116 to falsely claim a discount, then it's illegal.

I suppose my question is, if they waited until release day and then jacked the price up 26.01 without notice while displaying the price as 89.99 with no shown discount, would you pitch a conniption fit over it? You know, because they wouldn't want to give you the CORRECT impression that the price right now is less than the release price?

[PandaWaffles]

Originally posted by tetaplanas:

Cities: Skylines II - Ultimate Edition is reported to cost 89,99$/€ as of 13 June 2023 with a strike-through price of 116$/€ which is a seemingly 22% decrease in price.

There's a problem, though. The game hasn't been out yet and never costed in fact 116$/€, so this is an illegal practice in EU countries (and some other countries outside the EU too) because its a false discount. Even if this practice was legal it is at best ethically questionable. Is this how Colossal Order and Paradox want to treat customers who are likely to pay for the Ultimate Edition?

I totally agree with you, the game isn't even out and already Paradox is starting their shady DLC business. There is no other company trying to sell that many DLCs (again the game isn't even out yet and already they are planning on dozens of DLC, many of which should probably be part of the base game anyway) And then this FOMO crap with apparently selling you something NOW that might or might not become more expensive later, not a way to treat your customers!! Just DON'T buy it, speak with your wallet.

[andrfgs]

So will the bundle price be increased after release or just the price of all separate assets in total? Pardon if I misunderstood, I saw the 2 editions and nothing else, hence my doubts on this. But still It looks a bit fishy since we're talking about prices of future things that don't even exist when the base game itself wasn't even released yet.

Or maybe I'm just old fashioned, since I never ever purchased anything in pre-order.

Regardless, thank you all for the information, I wasn't fully understanding this.

[Truffletoot]

Originally posted by tetaplanas:

So will the bundle price be increased after release or just the price of all separate assets in total? Pardon if I misunderstood, I saw the 2 editions and nothing else, hence my doubts on this. But still It looks a bit fishy since we're talking about prices of future things that don't even exist when the base game itself wasn't even released yet.

Or maybe I'm just old fashioned, since I never ever purchased anything in pre-order.

Regardless, thank you all for the information, I wasn't fully understanding this.

If you buy everything as a separate thing instead of the ultimate edition, it will cost $116. Buying Ultimate edition lets you get all of it at once for a decreased price.

[andrfgs]

Originally posted by Pizzeria21:

Originally posted by tetaplanas:

So will the bundle price be increased after release or just the price of all separate assets in total? Pardon if I misunderstood, I saw the 2 editions and nothing else, hence my doubts on this. But still It looks a bit fishy since we're talking about prices of future things that don't even exist when the base game itself wasn't even released yet.

Or maybe I'm just old fashioned, since I never ever purchased anything in pre-order.

Regardless, thank you all for the information, I wasn't fully understanding this.

If you buy everything as a separate thing instead of the ultimate edition, it will cost $116. Buying Ultimate edition lets you get all of it at once for a decreased price.

Thank you for clearing that out. The only thing that bothers me now is the fact I'm not interested in the radio stations and I'm not sure whether the total price without them would be cheaper than 89.99 or not,

[Kiggi]

what grinds my gears is that on the official store page it states that the ultimate edition is out now suggesting if you purchase that version you can play it after purchasing despite having the release date of Oct2023

[♥ElCapitanAmericano♥]

I love Cities: Skylines, but I can't support gaming companies for this type of behavior. Pay walling bits and pieces of the game before it's even been released is very shady to me and tells me that this company views fans of the franchise as customers first, fans second. Where do they draw the line? Are graphs and tools going to be pay walled next time? Trees? Access to increasing the speed of the game? This is the type of behavior that I expect from scammy phone games, not from a respected PC title. As much as I love Skylines, I'm going to have to hard pass on this round of the game. If we let them get away with it now, it will only become worse and we risk losing quality PC games being developed.

[SLG]

Originally posted by Kiggi:

what grinds my gears is that on the official store page it states that the ultimate edition is out now suggesting if you purchase that version you can play it after purchasing despite having the release date of Oct2023

Where do you see that? At the very top, it says it would not be released until October 24, 2023.

[Mystic]

Originally posted by ♥ElCapitanAmericano♥:

I love Cities: Skylines, but I can't support gaming companies for this type of behavior. Pay walling bits and pieces of the game before it's even been released is very shady to me and tells me that this company views fans of the franchise as customers first, fans second. Where do they draw the line? Are graphs and tools going to be pay walled next time? Trees? Access to increasing the speed of the game? This is the type of behavior that I expect from scammy phone games, not from a respected PC title. As much as I love Skylines, I'm going to have to hard pass on this round of the game. If we let them get away with it now, it will only become worse and we risk losing quality PC games being developed.

I'm sure they work very hard to produce this content, but I would have preferred to pay $10-20 more for the main game and have all the content included, rather than pull stuff out of the main game and sell it as DLC in the future.

[_APA [~sudo]]

Originally posted by tetaplanas:

Cities: Skylines II - Ultimate Edition is reported to cost 89,99$/€ as of 13 June 2023 with a strike-through price of 116$/€ which is a seemingly 22% decrease in price.

Greenmangaming already have 12% off, grab it

[TheDude1972]

OP is very correct, it never costs that supposed price before so it's illegal to say it's a sale. But steam itself doesn't confirm this sale as they are clearly smart enough to do so.

[TheEffectTheCause]

Originally posted by Pizzeria21:

Originally posted by tetaplanas:

So will the bundle price be increased after release or just the price of all separate assets in total? Pardon if I misunderstood, I saw the 2 editions and nothing else, hence my doubts on this. But still It looks a bit fishy since we're talking about prices of future things that don't even exist when the base game itself wasn't even released yet.

Or maybe I'm just old fashioned, since I never ever purchased anything in pre-order.

Regardless, thank you all for the information, I wasn't fully understanding this.

If you buy everything as a separate thing instead of the ultimate edition, it will cost $116. Buying Ultimate edition lets you get all of it at once for a decreased price.

How to milk idiots.

[_APA [~sudo]]

Originally posted by TheEffectTheCause:

Originally posted by Pizzeria21:

If you buy everything as a separate thing instead of the ultimate edition, it will cost $116. Buying Ultimate edition lets you get all of it at once for a decreased price.

How to milk idiots.

Cheers

[King DaMuncha]

Those asset packs are a rip off considering moders upload better quality assets to the workshop for free. So your not saving ANYTHING from buying the delux version.