Is this the Dark Souls of city builders?

[K.I.L.E.R]

I hope it will be more challenging than SimCity 4.

[General T.Montana Tropic Thunder]

I think it is more like the latest ms flight simulator, which has superb graphics, where one imagines that those graphics got converted and translated into pure gameplay joy.

[Misselijke Man]

I've seen quite a few streamers make a profitable city while building like toddlers on crack, so probably not too difficult.

[Tsubame ⭐]

SC4 was not challenging at all, and likely CS2 will not be either.

[MarkJohnson]

Publicado originalmente por Tsubame ⭐:

SC4 was not challenging at all, and likely CS2 will not be either.

+1

SC4 was the end of the spreadsheet system that was too easy to figure out as they were very similar to SC1, 2000, and 3000.

CS1 was harder, as it wasn't fully realized until Natural Disaters, and was just piecemealed together for the first two years. It was very unbalanced. but luckily the modders stepped up and solved most issues quickly, or at leased exposed the issues more clearly.

I'm sure CS2 will be way more organic and self restricting itself, so we don't need gamey mechanics, like despawning, one-lane bakups, partial transportation load backup, restricted outside connection backups. etc.

It should be more like throttling income in cs1, so you can't reach limits. Your growth will just be stifled until you figure out how to keep the limits low with logistics, like CS1 vanilla traffic. Plus a lot more fine tuning in abilities, I just hope they don't go too overboard in micro management. I see way too many stats everywhere in the game. I was getting dizzy watching the videos.

What the heck happened to spell checker. I can't spell anything right without it!!

[K.I.L.E.R]

CS1 was a city painter, it didn't even have the "challenge" of SimCity 1, let alone 4. I hope CS2 will actually have challenge. I don't want to get bored too quickly with it.

I had many difficulty mods on CS1, but it still felt far too easy.

SC4 with NAM has been my go to city builder for a while.

[themightyswe]

Publicado originalmente por Misselijke Man:

I've seen quite a few streamers make a profitable city while building like toddlers on crack, so probably not too difficult.

Most streamers played with unlimited $, did you see some of those noobs play with a real economy? Can you point to one please?

[mmhajvth]

I think the difficulty level depends on your own goals in CS2. If you just want to build a big or "nice" or reasonably flowing traffic in the city, it won't be that difficult indeed. But if you want everything at once, it will probably be a bit more difficult.
Simcity 4 had less of that because the traffic in Simcity was not actually simulated.
On the other hand, I really liked the graphics of Simcity. And I find that with the CS2 images known so far, that is still quite flat/undetailed.

[Misselijke Man]

Publicado originalmente por themightyswe:

Publicado originalmente por Misselijke Man:

I've seen quite a few streamers make a profitable city while building like toddlers on crack, so probably not too difficult.

Most streamers played with unlimited $, did you see some of those noobs play with a real economy? Can you point to one please?

https://www.youtube.com/live/bbdCZvATRto?si=ocuVAYKhJXEENphI is one I remember top of my head, were a few more

[hjkdsfkhjn]

Workers & Resources: Soviet Republic is the Dark Souls of city builders, I'd say - if you're looking for that type of game.

Except that - we'll see about C:S2, though I haven't watched the streamers in such detail to make myself a picture about its difficulty.

[sethtriggs]

I definitely endorse and agree with Workers and Resources: Soviet Republic being the Dark Souls of city builders. Also it doesn't even run on this ancient laptop while Cities: Skylines *does.* That's hilarious.

[Whitek3t]

I am also endorsing Workers & Resources : Soviet Republic. I created a couple of mods for it and I am looking forward to port them over to this game eventually.

[bish0p23]

Publicado originalmente por Misselijke Man:

I've seen quite a few streamers make a profitable city while building like toddlers on crack, so probably not too difficult.

I'm glad you said this. Not only where they new to the game, but they were on a crane terrified for their life, chatting with viewers, and even on their phone calling people and still earning a profit.

They really are going for an even more casual audience this time around. I really hope i'm wrong but it's not looking like it.

Edit: this guy plays with a real economy.

https://www.youtube.com/live/JsOQJr1o51s?si=CZvkVtq1p7UTUODk

[Apples]

Publicado originalmente por bish0p23:

Publicado originalmente por Misselijke Man:

I've seen quite a few streamers make a profitable city while building like toddlers on crack, so probably not too difficult.

I'm glad you said this. Not only where they new to the game, but they were on a crane terrified for their life, chatting with viewers, and even on their phone calling people and still earning a profit.

They really are going for an even more casual audience this time around. I really hope i'm wrong but it's not looking like it.

Edit: this guy plays with a real economy.

https://www.youtube.com/live/JsOQJr1o51s?si=CZvkVtq1p7UTUODk

roads don't seem to cost any maintenance, i don't see how was able to make money, considering he didn't have power nor water/sewage setup... i guess they had the sims take after most gamers, easily pleased.

[bish0p23]

Publicado originalmente por Apples:

Publicado originalmente por bish0p23:

I'm glad you said this. Not only where they new to the game, but they were on a crane terrified for their life, chatting with viewers, and even on their phone calling people and still earning a profit.

They really are going for an even more casual audience this time around. I really hope i'm wrong but it's not looking like it.

Edit: this guy plays with a real economy.

https://www.youtube.com/live/JsOQJr1o51s?si=CZvkVtq1p7UTUODk

roads don't seem to cost any maintenance, i don't see how was able to make money, considering he didn't have power nor water/sewage setup... i guess they had the sims take after most gamers, easily pleased.

Yeah I don't know. I think the government subsidies make starting the game much easier. This would be OK if the game became harder down the line somehow. But I'm not so sure if that's the case.

Traffic doesn't seem to be too much of an issue anymore either...which would be fine if there were other challenges.

[K.I.L.E.R]

Wow. I think I am going to avoid this game. SimCity 4 with NAM still seems to be the best city builder after 20 years...