Seriously, does this game have a weighted "Impostor" choosing system?

[Annalog]

I played for 1 hour with my brothers and SiL, and got it 3 times. Ok, not horrible, it's fine.

Played it for 3 hours with a group of 10 people and my brother got it honestly at least 1/3 rounds, while I got it 0 times. In 3 hours.

However impostor choosing is done needs to be fixed because evidently, it will give it to one person 3 rounds in a row no problem, and give it to others 0 times over the course of dozens of games over 3 hours.

[Curious Fox]

It's better to leave it this way due to RNG. Especially if it's the case if you're playing with your friends.

Before you say more about 3 hours. I have straightforward proof I had 0 impostor over 37 games straight. Just deal with it. Your time will come.

[The_Jinxer]

I have more than 50% impostor rate, lol. I think its "too" random (there needs to be a limit to keep the amount of times a person gets impostor or crewmate reasonable)

[Curious Fox]

Originally posted by The_Jinxer:

I have more than 50% impostor rate, lol. I think its "too" random (there needs to be a limit to keep the amount of times a person gets impostor or crewmate reasonable)

Tbh I envy that in a way. I have less than 10% impostor at my point. I would really prefer it to stay around 30%...

[Kinscar]

it's chance, it can't be fixed and don't beat yourself up over it

[Annalog]

Sorry not sorry, but never getting the impostor just ruins the game.

Games like this, Dead By Daylight, Infection modes, they're only fun if you get to play *both sides* of the weighted game.

If you only ever get to play a certain side, then what's the point in playing a game that's entirely balanced around there being 2 sides? I'm not getting to play both sides of the game, despite buying a game featuring 2 sides to play.

"Chance" can be fixed, and quite often has been, where people like Apple had to weight "shuffle" because people complained it would play songs that were right next to each other too often. Most "random" chances aren't random anymore, and this game highlights the terrific reason why.

The impostor is, for most people, the fun part of the game. It's not that you hate or don't enjoy playing as a crewmate, but we're all waiting for that sweet sweet impostor game where you connive and backstab.

And if you never get it, you gradually grow more and more tired of seeing "Crewmate" pop up every single time.

"Random" is very often weighted nowadays, and this game should do the same. Not IMPOSSIBLE for someone to get it twice, maybe 3 times in a row, but nobody should be left stranded in limbo for 3 hours hoping to get to finally play the fun part of the game.

[Curious Fox]

Problem is, it's statistically not that off either. Becoming the impostor is only around 10% in a 1 impostor game. 9-8 games as a crewmate is statistically normal. Even within the range on RNG.

Also, it's your job to define the fun aspects of the role. Crewmate is not just about doing tasks. You actually have so much time to meme around especially when you're playing in a group. Pretending to be the impostor and creeping out your friends. Infinitely dancing at the emergency button.

You can make that opportunity to learn. How to win trust, how to make yourself not seen without vents. How to keep a safe distance. How to be suspicious.

Am I tired of seeing Crewmate on my screen? Sure am, considering how across the course of 79 games I've only been impostor 7 times. Which, ironically, is still statistically sound and normal.

In conclusion. Just get into a discord or get with friends. Playing along severely reduces so much fun out of this game.

[Mu'Ammar of Carthus]

It's a great game, but it has a lot of things it should fix.
The impostor RNG is one of them.

Showing disconnected folks as dead at the round table is another.

And I don't see much of a point forcing us to guess who the impostor was after the crewmembers have won, just show us the impostors were. What's this "victory" screen where you have to proceed by elimination and remember who's NOT on that screen to know who the impostors were.

The time limit to fix the O² is also ridiculously short.
Easy win for the impostor if there's 3 players left.

[Curious Fox]

Originally posted by Robocoq:

It's a great game, but it has a lot of things it should fix.
The impostor RNG is one of them.

Showing disconnected folks as dead at the round table is another.

And I don't see much of a point forcing us to guess who the impostor was after the crewmembers have won, just show us the impostors were. What's this "victory" screen where you have to proceed by elimination and remember who's NOT on that screen to know who the impostors were.

The time limit to fix the O² is also ridiculously short.
Easy win for the impostor if there's 3 players left.

That's just a whole negative viewpoint as it's showing the glorious moment as a moment to give shame to the Imposters of that round.

That's the whole point of the sabotage. Do you not know or realize the fact that saboing is a legit victory strategy for the Impostors? If you don't like it, get the Impostor before you go down to that low level. If you can't, deal with it.

[Annalog]

If I played in a full game of 10 for 3 hours maybe that RNG would make sense, but when we played 2 hours of 6~8 players, and I never got it during that entire timeframe, I'm not interested in playing any more.

I haven't played it alone once, yet it's still pretty not fun.

And playing around by pretending to be the impostor just ruins the game for everyone else who are taking it more seriously.

[YoYoStevo]

Originally posted by uNovak:

Sorry not sorry, but never getting the impostor just ruins the game.

Games like this, Dead By Daylight, Infection modes, they're only fun if you get to play *both sides* of the weighted game.

Well a lot of people disagree with you, many people say they're the imposter because they don't want to be it. I find both sides fun, but to say never getting imposter ruins the game is factually incorrect, because so many people don't want to do it.

Being imposter is random, in a group of 10 in a 1 imposter match you have a 1/10 chance, that means way more often than not, you're not gonna be imposter, if you only play for an hour don't be surprised if you never get it.

[AtomicFinjaMaster]

I have this issue too, I've played around 10 hours and been Impostor twice, I feel like this game needs a role preference system like Friday the 13th, set it to crewmate and you basically never get impostor, set it to none and you barely get impostor, set it to impostor and you have a decent chance to be impostor every game

[alex_ionut1976]

Originally posted by uNovak:

Sorry not sorry, but never getting the impostor just ruins the game.

Games like this, Dead By Daylight, Infection modes, they're only fun if you get to play *both sides* of the weighted game.

If you only ever get to play a certain side, then what's the point in playing a game that's entirely balanced around there being 2 sides? I'm not getting to play both sides of the game, despite buying a game featuring 2 sides to play.

"Chance" can be fixed, and quite often has been, where people like Apple had to weight "shuffle" because people complained it would play songs that were right next to each other too often. Most "random" chances aren't random anymore, and this game highlights the terrific reason why.

The impostor is, for most people, the fun part of the game. It's not that you hate or don't enjoy playing as a crewmate, but we're all waiting for that sweet sweet impostor game where you connive and backstab.

And if you never get it, you gradually grow more and more tired of seeing "Crewmate" pop up every single time.

"Random" is very often weighted nowadays, and this game should do the same. Not IMPOSSIBLE for someone to get it twice, maybe 3 times in a row, but nobody should be left stranded in limbo for 3 hours hoping to get to finally play the fun part of the game.

Some games use RNG because if they will give you the option to choose everyone will just choose the easier side and the one that gives you the most chance to win.
DBD gives you the option to choose because you need to have a tactic and you need to have skill to win while in Among Us, Deceit, F13 you need to make your tactic after the match started and it doesn't require that much skill.
Why does everyone wants to play as the bad guy in Among Us, Deceit and other games because it's easier and you have a higher chance to win.

[AtomicFinjaMaster]

Originally posted by alex_ionut1976:

Originally posted by uNovak:

Sorry not sorry, but never getting the impostor just ruins the game.

Games like this, Dead By Daylight, Infection modes, they're only fun if you get to play *both sides* of the weighted game.

If you only ever get to play a certain side, then what's the point in playing a game that's entirely balanced around there being 2 sides? I'm not getting to play both sides of the game, despite buying a game featuring 2 sides to play.

"Chance" can be fixed, and quite often has been, where people like Apple had to weight "shuffle" because people complained it would play songs that were right next to each other too often. Most "random" chances aren't random anymore, and this game highlights the terrific reason why.

The impostor is, for most people, the fun part of the game. It's not that you hate or don't enjoy playing as a crewmate, but we're all waiting for that sweet sweet impostor game where you connive and backstab.

And if you never get it, you gradually grow more and more tired of seeing "Crewmate" pop up every single time.

"Random" is very often weighted nowadays, and this game should do the same. Not IMPOSSIBLE for someone to get it twice, maybe 3 times in a row, but nobody should be left stranded in limbo for 3 hours hoping to get to finally play the fun part of the game.

Some games use RNG because if they will give you the option to choose everyone will just choose the easier side and the one that gives you the most chance to win.
DBD gives you the option to choose because you need to have a tactic and you need to have skill to win while in Among Us, Deceit, F13 you need to make your tactic after the match started and it doesn't require that much skill.
Why does everyone wants to play as the bad guy in Among Us, Deceit and other games because it's easier and you have a higher chance to win.

Isnt the entire DBD community constantly complaining about the game being easier as one side? I've never played Deceit but I have never heard of people wanting to be Impostor because its easier, only because they find it more fun or want to try specific strategies, and F13 not requiring much skill? Sure Among Us may not require skill because of some people believing anything/nothing but theres so much going on in F13 at any given time both sides have to make fast decisions, move well and manage stamina, and utilize abilities/items correctly, it may not require as much skill as DBD but theres still a lot of things you need to be good at

[Annalog]

Why does everyone wants to play as the bad guy in Among Us, Deceit and other games because it's easier and you have a higher chance to win.

No, because it's more fun. Even if it's harder to win, it's more interactive than run around and do chores, because you're trying to find the perfect kill, or the perfect time to sabotage, there's more to engage with. Crewmates engagement kicks in harder once a body has been found and a meetings been called, while Impostor's is strong from the get-go.

WHY people play Impostor isn't the point of this post though, the point is: The current impostor choosing system is broken, evidenced by both my anecdotal experience, and the other people saying the same thing.

Either weight it, add a queue system, whatever, but as it stands, I'm not interested in opening the game, even playing with my friends, if I'm never gonna get to play the Impostor side. That's a problem, considering I spent money on it.

[Ichmag 🔑🌙]

It should be fully RNG. If theres some sort of q or weighing system, it could actually influence voting