Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance

Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance

Abcsam Dec 26, 2024 @ 5:22pm
not using FAF any time an FMV happens game locks
SO on windows 11 laptop with 3060 10th gen I5 and 16 gigs of ram. Anytime i play the campaign when the games story mode kicks in with the FMV in the upper left my game locks up for 3 to 7 seconds and plays the last sound over and over again during the lock up. It always comes out of it but in the campaign this is rough.

is there any fix for this?
Originally posted by Bolt:
Windows 7 here. Works on my machine. The fun part is that the game uses Microsoft's XACT[en.wikipedia.org], so it should run just fine on Windows, but doesn't, as expected of Microsoft when they create their own environment and use their own software for it.

1) Sound
-disable any additional audio output devices and leave only those active that the system actually uses for its audio output
-disable any audio enhancements for what remains
-also set audio max output to 16bit 48.000Hz, Stereo

2) Compatibility mode:
-select either FA or FAF (typically: C:\ProgramData\FAForever\bin) executable
-set compatibility mode to Windows Vista Service Pack 2

3) Run the game with a no sound parameter:
https://forum.faforever.com/topic/4084/solutions-for-snd-error-xact-invalid-arg-xact3dapply-failed

4) Rename the game's movies folder and put an empty one in its place
- rename: Steam\steamapps\common\Supreme Commander Forged Alliance\movies
- create a new 'movies' folder in its place
- the game should fail to load the video contents that cause the lag

Weird solutions:
- install the game on C:\ drive instead of any other
- reboot the device and check if this fixes anything (there's a weird sound issue with the game that only a reboot fixes - but you need to do a proper shutdown, not just a restart)
- switching fullscreen / windowed mode
- reinstall old software environment: DirectX9 (the game already has a DirectX folder within its main folder with a DXSetup.exe to run), VC++ (both x86 & x64), dotnet 2x & 3x, run the game as admin & check if Windows has removed any permissions for the game to use the %localappdata%\Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander Forged Alliance\ path that it needs
- use a virtual machine to install Windows XP and play the game with that
- switch to Linux

Unrelated but for complete overview - Linux:
Source
Launch parameters: PROTON_NO_ESYNC=1 PROTON_NO_FSYNC=1

Irrelevant:
- 4GB Patch (it's already installed in the Steam version and FAF)
- sending an angry letter to Microsoft (they can't read written words - only text on screen)
- screaming into the void
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Bolt Dec 26, 2024 @ 11:06pm 
Windows 7 here. Works on my machine. The fun part is that the game uses Microsoft's XACT[en.wikipedia.org], so it should run just fine on Windows, but doesn't, as expected of Microsoft when they create their own environment and use their own software for it.

1) Sound
-disable any additional audio output devices and leave only those active that the system actually uses for its audio output
-disable any audio enhancements for what remains
-also set audio max output to 16bit 48.000Hz, Stereo

2) Compatibility mode:
-select either FA or FAF (typically: C:\ProgramData\FAForever\bin) executable
-set compatibility mode to Windows Vista Service Pack 2

3) Run the game with a no sound parameter:
https://forum.faforever.com/topic/4084/solutions-for-snd-error-xact-invalid-arg-xact3dapply-failed

4) Rename the game's movies folder and put an empty one in its place
- rename: Steam\steamapps\common\Supreme Commander Forged Alliance\movies
- create a new 'movies' folder in its place
- the game should fail to load the video contents that cause the lag

Weird solutions:
- install the game on C:\ drive instead of any other
- reboot the device and check if this fixes anything (there's a weird sound issue with the game that only a reboot fixes - but you need to do a proper shutdown, not just a restart)
- switching fullscreen / windowed mode
- reinstall old software environment: DirectX9 (the game already has a DirectX folder within its main folder with a DXSetup.exe to run), VC++ (both x86 & x64), dotnet 2x & 3x, run the game as admin & check if Windows has removed any permissions for the game to use the %localappdata%\Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander Forged Alliance\ path that it needs
- use a virtual machine to install Windows XP and play the game with that
- switch to Linux

Unrelated but for complete overview - Linux:
Source
Launch parameters: PROTON_NO_ESYNC=1 PROTON_NO_FSYNC=1

Irrelevant:
- 4GB Patch (it's already installed in the Steam version and FAF)
- sending an angry letter to Microsoft (they can't read written words - only text on screen)
- screaming into the void
Last edited by Bolt; Dec 26, 2024 @ 11:12pm
Abcsam Dec 27, 2024 @ 9:05am 
WOW thank you for that i will try this later to see if it helps!
cincpac Jan 1 @ 2:00pm 
ahhhahaha
Originally posted by Abcsam:
WOW thank you for that i will try this later to see if it helps!

Which solution worked for you? I'm having the same problem recently (didn't have it 2 months ago though), so i'd try that first ;-)
Abcsam Jan 10 @ 7:58am 
Originally posted by Headeater:
Originally posted by Abcsam:
WOW thank you for that i will try this later to see if it helps!

Which solution worked for you? I'm having the same problem recently (didn't have it 2 months ago though), so i'd try that first ;-)

I think the main one that fixed it for me was #2 running it in compatibility mode windows vista SP2
Mussels Jan 17 @ 2:17am 
broken here for me too, its likely an nvidia driver update or less likely a windows update that caused this, no known fix yet
Abcsam Jan 17 @ 1:25pm 
Originally posted by Mussels:
broken here for me too, its likely an nvidia driver update or less likely a windows update that caused this, no known fix yet

If your on windows 11 go to comparability mode and set it to vista SP 2 you might need to restart it 1 or 2 times but it gets there.
None of these worked for me, but I dit find out it was better in the steam-version than the GOG version (both vanilla). Lag was way shorter, and if I tried giving commands during speech, it didn't completely lock up as it often did in the GOG version (pc reset required, because SupCom doen't coöperate to CTRL-ALT-DEL). I'd still advice to touch as little as possible when the NPC's are chatting though. I also tried FAF client (on steamversion) but that was worse again.
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