Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance

Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance

Any reason NOT to buy this over og?
Anything at all FA did worse?
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The Imperial Owl May 26, 2023 @ 8:25am 
As far as I know, not really, unless you just want to play the base game campaign.
alumlovescake May 26, 2023 @ 8:30am 
Originally posted by The Imperial Owl:
As far as I know, not really, unless you just want to play the base game campaign.
I know games like this aren't meant for the story but how is the campaign between the two?
Bolt May 26, 2023 @ 9:28am 
Only Supreme Commander has a well crafted campaign. FA doesn't. The tech unlocks you get often don't make sense for the mission, happen far too late and it's always the same 2x map expansion + enemy spam wave + next objectives thing. The writing is far worse as well, with faction identities, greater goals and characters no longer being relevant.

It could use an overhaul with better maps and actual pacing, which won't happen. It was tried for the original Forged Alliance with
https://www.moddb.com/mods/forged-alliance-enhanced-campaign-ai
which also alters the missions a bit, but the project was abandoned before it was finished.

The main challenge of FA campaign missions is to establish your base. After that it's boredom and / or bad missions design. Allies are often a hindrance and / or incompetent.
If you get FA you can use FAF to play both campaigns anyways, although the linked mod won't work for FAF.

TLDR: Buy FA, use FAF to play the SupCom campaign. Steam vs GoG: GoG version > Steam version, as FA on Steam doesn't offer anything, not even achievements, over the GoG version.
loudman2 May 26, 2023 @ 11:13am 
Actually - the Steam version has a better memory model - the GOG version uses a different memory manager, which consumes almost 1 GB before the game even begins.
lonesh33p May 26, 2023 @ 3:51pm 
Depends on your experience to some extent. SupCom1 is a kinder gentler introduction to all the moving parts. SCFA being an expansion, the campaign just throws you in the deep end. As an old fart who doesn't get up to speed that fast, I'd have really struggled with SCFA had I not played SupCom1 first.

I found the SupCom1 campaign missions to be an entertaining RTS challenge (I'll probably go back and try it on hard mode at some point). I bought it on sale when the price difference between SCFA and the Gold Edition was something like $2 - no brainer there. $7 is harder to justify if you don't want/need the training wheels, although the $/hour would be really low. Just my personal opinion - I had zero interest in the story and lore. The voice acting is good though. (Not obnoxious like X-Morph)

As a not-overly-tech-savvy old fart on Linux, I didn't get the campaign to run (offline, so I could save/resume) via FAF, but @Hollow's suggestion sounds like the best approach for most people.
I remember from a hundred years ago that OG had significantly better performance, but that shouldn't be an issue anymore.
DoomBot[Q] Jul 31, 2023 @ 7:38pm 
Originally posted by lonesh33p:
Depends on your experience to some extent. SupCom1 is a kinder gentler introduction to all the moving parts. SCFA being an expansion, the campaign just throws you in the deep end. As an old fart who doesn't get up to speed that fast, I'd have really struggled with SCFA had I not played SupCom1 first.

I found the SupCom1 campaign missions to be an entertaining RTS challenge (I'll probably go back and try it on hard mode at some point). I bought it on sale when the price difference between SCFA and the Gold Edition was something like $2 - no brainer there. $7 is harder to justify if you don't want/need the training wheels, although the $/hour would be really low. Just my personal opinion - I had zero interest in the story and lore. The voice acting is good though. (Not obnoxious like X-Morph)

As a not-overly-tech-savvy old fart on Linux, I didn't get the campaign to run (offline, so I could save/resume) via FAF, but @Hollow's suggestion sounds like the best approach for most people.

For Linux:
Right click on supcom or FA, click Properties, and in the Launch Options Box, add this:

PROTON_NO_ESYNC=1 PROTON_NO_FSYNC=1 %command% /fullscreen 1920 1080

You can then change the graphical settings in game, just don't mess with the resolution afterwards. I will run fine then.
lonesh33p Aug 1, 2023 @ 9:13am 
@DoomBot Thank you.
JoyBuzzer Aug 12, 2023 @ 6:42am 
if you get this one you can download a free lobby for the game called Forged alliance forever that gives you access to matchmaking and the vanilla campaign and has good mod support
Gralzeim Aug 12, 2023 @ 8:38pm 
The balance was also different in the original game. Notably, experimentals were more expensive but also more powerful, while in Forged Alliance, experimentals are cheaper but not quite as powerful, so you can use more of them sooner, but one won't likely win the game for you on its own.

That said, the economy was also slower in the original game, and Forged Alliance made some real welcome changes in that regard; the multiplayer community moved over to Forged Alliance for good reason (it wasn't just the new faction and units).
Last edited by Gralzeim; Aug 12, 2023 @ 8:39pm
loudman2 Aug 13, 2023 @ 9:12am 
There were quite a few technological improvements to FA over the original, most notably a far better case of memory management and a more fully featured AI. While there were some balance changes, there were no changes to the resource rates, and only a select few units actually saw any significant change to either costs, or stats - but they were informed choices based on the data collected from the original.
Last edited by loudman2; Aug 13, 2023 @ 9:13am
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Date Posted: May 26, 2023 @ 7:57am
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