Far Cry New Dawn

Far Cry New Dawn

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Painfully boring game play & bizarre use of colour
I've played about 4 hours so far, and not gone rushing around, as just wanted to chill for a bit in the game.

However, I can't believe how boring it is.

There's no characters (yet) that I can tell from the first game. I keep seeing the same faces on the characters. All I've done is collect junk. If I sell stuff, I don't get cash, I get more junk. Who ever thought running around a map picking up duck tape and scrap would be fun? It's like a weird effort on Fallout.

The music of Farcry 5 was incredible. I'm getting one station on the radio playing weird gangster rap style stuff that isn't exactly good. The animals seem to be bullet proof. Anybody tried killing a bear?

A.I is just randomly on the map, with no logical reason for being there, and the intelligence levels are that of year 1 gaming. The whole thing seems devoid of fun. Drive a car off road and you can't see over the steering wheel. There's seemingly no chopper, unless you hire a pilot, and part of the fun of FC5 was flying yourself.

Please tell me it's going to get more interesting & fun, as I have every Farcry game since the original, and I can't guess where the turning point is going to be, if it even has one, as it's doing the same thing, over, and over, and over, and over ...........
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Anger Manager Feb 15, 2019 @ 7:28pm 
Originally posted by Gorilla:
Originally posted by Anger Manager:
There's no characters (yet) that I can tell from the first game.

Trying to say this without spoiling anything. There's several characters you meet early on that are from Far Cry 5.


As for the Bizarre use of color as you stated.

"the team had wanted to create a post-apocalyptic game set in the Far Cry series for a long time. The team intentionally avoided a dark and bleak tone as they felt that it would be a cliché and resolved to create a world that looks vibrant. Set seventeen years after Far Cry 5, the world is undergoing a "super bloom" in which nature reclaims the world and gives the game a vibrant colour palette."

I get them trying something new to give it a different feel, but when you look down at the water, it looks like the kind of graphical quality of lesser quality games. It's almost 'Bulletstorm' in comparison. Why not keep the map beautiful, as opposed to garish? Pastel pink, rather than shocking pink, if that makes sense?

Farcry 5 was strange - a 1st person shooter that looked very much that it had been set up for multiplayer, then had the plug pulled, as you had costumes, weapon camos, charcter customisation etc etc, all of which you rarely saw any of 'yourself'.

Now it seems like they've just decided to wipe a lot of that away, and instead try to copy Fallout with weapon crafting, and can there be anything more boring than developing your home base?

Remember FC1 started out life as one of the greatest shooter / multiplayer games of all time, yet it seems this New Dawn (and many before it) was built by females, with a passion for walking through flowers, and picking pointless stuff up.

Ubisoft need to be very careful where they take this franchise - you only have to look at how quiet their own forum is, for such a big producer of games, to see players are turning their backs.

Most of my friends when asked if they were going to purchase said the same thing, and that was Farcry is always the same thing, and over a decade of 'the same thing' is too long.
Anger Manager Feb 15, 2019 @ 8:46pm 
Originally posted by Gorilla:
Originally posted by Anger Manager:

Now it seems like they've just decided to wipe a lot of that away, and instead try to copy Fallout with weapon crafting, and can there be anything more boring than developing your home base?

Remember FC1 started out life as one of the greatest shooter / multiplayer games of all time, yet it seems this New Dawn (and many before it) was built by females, with a passion for walking through flowers, and picking pointless stuff up.

It makes more sense for you to craft your weapons/vehicles post post apocalyptic, wouldn't make sense for you to buy it at a shop now would it?

"Picking pointless stuff up" You're picking up resources needed to craft your weapons/vehicles.

Dude, the A.I are walking round with pistols, shotguns, sniper rifles and rocket launchers.
Tacitus Feb 15, 2019 @ 9:24pm 
Originally posted by Gorilla:
"the team had wanted to create a post-apocalyptic game set in the Far Cry series for a long time. The team intentionally avoided a dark and bleak tone as they felt that it would be a cliché and resolved to create a world that looks vibrant. Set seventeen years after Far Cry 5, the world is undergoing a "super bloom" in which nature reclaims the world and gives the game a vibrant colour palette."

That's a piss poor explanation on the part of the developers for a very questionable art direction. Last time I checked, nuclear weapons and radiation tend to be lethal to animals and plants as well as people. If I'm not mistaken, this game is supposed to take place after a nuclear apocalypse? I haven't heard of any bombs that make flowers grow everywhere and turn everything pink, unless it's some enhanced version of the "gay bomb" that the CIA was once trying to develop!

If they wanted to create a more colourful (but believable) post-apocalyptic world, then they coudl have taken inspiration from the area around Chernobyl. The Red Forest has a very strange colouration as a result of the disaster.

Now, if the premise for the apocalypse was some sort of pathogen, then that would account for the proliferation of nature, although a lot more weeds than nice flowers would make more sense...
GM Pax Feb 15, 2019 @ 9:50pm 
Originally posted by Anger Manager:
There's no characters (yet) that I can tell from the first game.
Kim Rye, Carmina's mother.

All I've done is collect junk. If I sell stuff, I don't get cash, I get more junk.
Not junk ... crafting materials. You use them to build (realy, unlock, a.k.a. "buy") new guns and vehicles. You can also use them to make throwables (molotovs, knives, etc).

The music of Farcry 5 was incredible. I'm getting one station on the radio playing weird gangster rap style stuff that isn't exactly good.
The world ended. The ruined radio station is now a Highwayman Outpost. They play their own style of music over the airwaves, of course..

The animals seem to be bullet proof. Anybody tried killing a bear?
Bears are Tier II animals. If you use a Tier 1 weapon .... yeah, you're not going to have a lot of effect on it.

Just wait until you find an irradiated Bison. Those're Elite ("Tier IV"). I hit one twice, direct contact, with a frelling MORTAR.

All that did was annoy it. :steamhappy:

There's seemingly no chopper, unless you hire a pilot, and part of the fun of FC5 was flying yourself.
::sigh::

You have to build the Garage up, to see what sort of vehicles you can craft.

The first helicopter is Tier II, so you'll have to upgrade the garage again (which means rescuing Rush and upgrading Prosperity itself), to be allowed to craft it. I just crafted it, and took it for a flight, not even twenty minutes ago. :)
Last edited by GM Pax; Feb 15, 2019 @ 9:51pm
Lemale Feb 15, 2019 @ 10:10pm 
The ubi forums are in general very quite and they go in the right direction with far cry.Far cry 5 was a huge sucess and if you don’t like it there are a lot of other games out there.I played them all and fc5 and new dawn are the best one especially gameplay wise
Originally posted by Anger Manager:
Originally posted by Gorilla:

Trying to say this without spoiling anything. There's several characters you meet early on that are from Far Cry 5.


As for the Bizarre use of color as you stated.

"the team had wanted to create a post-apocalyptic game set in the Far Cry series for a long time. The team intentionally avoided a dark and bleak tone as they felt that it would be a cliché and resolved to create a world that looks vibrant. Set seventeen years after Far Cry 5, the world is undergoing a "super bloom" in which nature reclaims the world and gives the game a vibrant colour palette."

I get them trying something new to give it a different feel, but when you look down at the water, it looks like the kind of graphical quality of lesser quality games. It's almost 'Bulletstorm' in comparison. Why not keep the map beautiful, as opposed to garish? Pastel pink, rather than shocking pink, if that makes sense?

Farcry 5 was strange - a 1st person shooter that looked very much that it had been set up for multiplayer, then had the plug pulled, as you had costumes, weapon camos, charcter customisation etc etc, all of which you rarely saw any of 'yourself'.

Now it seems like they've just decided to wipe a lot of that away, and instead try to copy Fallout with weapon crafting, and can there be anything more boring than developing your home base?

Remember FC1 started out life as one of the greatest shooter / multiplayer games of all time, yet it seems this New Dawn (and many before it) was built by females, with a passion for walking through flowers, and picking pointless stuff up.

Ubisoft need to be very careful where they take this franchise - you only have to look at how quiet their own forum is, for such a big producer of games, to see players are turning their backs.

Most of my friends when asked if they were going to purchase said the same thing, and that was Farcry is always the same thing, and over a decade of 'the same thing' is too long.
PocketYoda Feb 15, 2019 @ 10:48pm 
The second person you meet in the base at the start is a Farcry 5 character... And i like the use of the colour.

I used my tier one Assault rifle on a bear at the church with no issues... And the Wolverines are hella funny.
Last edited by PocketYoda; Feb 15, 2019 @ 10:49pm
PocketYoda Feb 15, 2019 @ 11:05pm 
Originally posted by Spawk:
Originally posted by Tacitus:
That's a piss poor explanation on the part of the developers for a very questionable art direction. Last time I checked, nuclear weapons and radiation tend to be lethal to animals and plants as well as people. If I'm not mistaken, this game is supposed to take place after a nuclear apocalypse? I haven't heard of any bombs that make flowers grow everywhere and turn everything pink

If they wanted to create a more colourful (but believable) post-apocalyptic world, then they coudl have taken inspiration from the area around Chernobyl. The Red Forest has a very strange colouration as a result of the disaster.

Now, if the premise for the apocalypse was some sort of pathogen, then that would account for the proliferation of nature, although a lot more weeds than nice flowers would make more sense...
https://variety.com/2018/gaming/features/far-cry-new-dawn-interview-1203086931/

Decant said the team did a fair amount of research about what would happen 15 to 20 years after such an event. The team even created models to see what the world would look like and worked with biologists. Nature, they discovered, would take back the space.

“The flowers and super bloom, they are inspired by a phenomenon that happens in the end of summer on the West Coast when things are so dry that there are flowers blooming in the same way once the rain comes,” he said.
They still wont believe you, too much Fallout social engineering...
Catalyst Feb 15, 2019 @ 11:23pm 
:lunar2019grinningpig:
not sure ... i saw the trailer and i thought like WOooo ... can you say stereotype ? :lol_tk:

But i mean in a good way ... that should ruffle some hippiefeathers on the bald head of PC-principal. Looking very zev too ... someone musta liked Chappie ...

too many games cave in and end up watered down. I mean if your kid shoots up hi-skool it means you werent paying attention, right? Whatever he or she was playing.
Oldskool fashionable violence with not too much roundabout aint always bad, its a game after all.

Sadly until i can afford beefed up pc's there wont be any new shiney for me

:lunar2019piginablanket:
iiTimW Feb 16, 2019 @ 2:34am 
Literally as soon as you get in Prosperity there's a character from FC5 and her daughter. If you play a bit further you unlock the pastor from FC5, and I can already see a different character on the map. Did you even pay attention do the characters from 5?
iiTimW Feb 16, 2019 @ 2:37am 
Originally posted by Tacitus:
Originally posted by Gorilla:
"the team had wanted to create a post-apocalyptic game set in the Far Cry series for a long time. The team intentionally avoided a dark and bleak tone as they felt that it would be a cliché and resolved to create a world that looks vibrant. Set seventeen years after Far Cry 5, the world is undergoing a "super bloom" in which nature reclaims the world and gives the game a vibrant colour palette."

That's a piss poor explanation on the part of the developers for a very questionable art direction. Last time I checked, nuclear weapons and radiation tend to be lethal to animals and plants as well as people. If I'm not mistaken, this game is supposed to take place after a nuclear apocalypse? I haven't heard of any bombs that make flowers grow everywhere and turn everything pink, unless it's some enhanced version of the "gay bomb" that the CIA was once trying to develop!

If they wanted to create a more colourful (but believable) post-apocalyptic world, then they coudl have taken inspiration from the area around Chernobyl. The Red Forest has a very strange colouration as a result of the disaster.

Now, if the premise for the apocalypse was some sort of pathogen, then that would account for the proliferation of nature, although a lot more weeds than nice flowers would make more sense...

They did research on this and it's called a superbloom. Yeah it's not the typical post-nuclear environment games tend to use, but it's a possible stage of a post-nuclear world. I think this was a good decision, but saying that it's a poor explanation makes no sense.
Chris Feb 16, 2019 @ 2:46am 
I have seen a gameplay video where 2 guys try to kill a cougar, they spend several magazines shooting it (assault rifles), like wtf?

Also is this game hard on the eyes? Just curious...
Umbra Feb 16, 2019 @ 2:58am 
Originally posted by Chris:
I have seen a gameplay video where 2 guys try to kill a cougar, they spend several magazines shooting it (assault rifles), like wtf?

Also is this game hard on the eyes? Just curious...
I don't personally find it hard on the eyes. Playing on a 55" Samsung Q8 with HDR10 on, it looks beautiful if I'm honest.
orpheus Feb 16, 2019 @ 3:36am 
bored already 600 + hrs fc5 this after 7 hrs, have lost interest .will play to end though , but in no hurry
ʙ⌁¹¹⁰¹ Feb 16, 2019 @ 3:50am 
mmh, 13k playing

is the game really that bad?? :manylandlaugh:
iiTimW Feb 16, 2019 @ 3:53am 
Originally posted by в⌁¹¹⁰¹:
mmh, 13k playing

is the game really that bad?? :manylandlaugh:

It's not bad but it's just not as popular because it's not a main entry, like it's not Far Cry 6. Also, Metro Exodus and Crackdown 3 released on the same day.
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