Slacker + Observant + White Wing

[Geralt De Rivia]

Start with the white wing, put 5 in everything and 10 in brains

Take Slacker trait

You get 2 perk points with the Slacker trait and -3 SP per level.

Take Rennaisance Man +1 to all attributes

Take Observant (Per 6 after Rennaisance man) and you get +3 SP per level.

Slacker and Observant cancel each other out

Since you get to select Rennaisance Man at lvl1, you get 6 extra SP at level 3 with no downsides

Thoughts?

[LordBlade]

Or just hack your stats, it's quicker. lol

[solaris32]

Publicado originalmente por LordBlade:

Or just hack your stats, it's quicker. lol

Some people prefer to play within the rules of the game.

In your case I don't see why you bother using SAM to unlock every achievement of every game.

[Stellar ❤️💙💛]

Thanks, gonna try this out!

[LordBlade]

Publicado originalmente por solaris32:

Some people prefer to play within the rules of the game.

I mean, if you're going to try and min-max and tie yourself in knots just to get an advantage like that, it doesn't make sense not to just cheat. You're basically trying to game the system as it is.

In your case I don't see why you bother using SAM to unlock every achievement of every game.

OCD mostly. If I have achievements there to unlock, I will waste ages trying to earn each one. Which usually involved NOT playing and enjoying the game and just going through convoluted nonsense to get arbitrary achievements. So when I get a game, I get all those out of the way so that I can just sit down and enjoy the game without having to constantly stress over unlocking achievements.

[Antiga]

Publicado originalmente por Geralt De Rivia:

Start with the white wing, put 5 in everything and 10 in brains

Take Slacker trait

You get 2 perk points with the Slacker trait and -3 SP per level.

Take Rennaisance Man +1 to all attributes

Take Observant (Per 6 after Rennaisance man) and you get +3 SP per level.

Slacker and Observant cancel each other out

Since you get to select Rennaisance Man at lvl1, you get 6 extra SP at level 3 with no downsides

Thoughts?

You just spend a trait, something that can also give precious attribute points, on 2 perk points. Also the entire build is focused around being able to get Renaissance Man, which is going to be a jack of all trades, master of none. Observant does cancel slacker out, and yet you're on a lower potential SP gain than you could be, and spend a perk point on doing so. If this build is all about those 6 extra SP, those are canceled out after a few levels of having Observant without the Slacker Trait.

It could be a decent build for sure, but the reasons for going this exact path seem futile. For example, there is also a perk at lvl 9, which needs 9 perception and 9 charisma, which ends up giving you a lot of extra perk points. A 10 brain character with Silver wing will collect 22 SP and 25 SP after taking observant.

Personally I find it really difficult to create a character around Renaissance Man, knowing it can never be specialized. It's a very attractive perk, but in the end you end up raising stats you do not really need or use (Your "B" stats) , opposed to gaining or creating synergies.

[Ty Cobb]

I always saw Renaissance Man as a "too-good-to-be-true" trap of a perk

[Erei]

Silver wing nearly cancel slacker (+2sp).
I think slacker + silver wing is a better combinaison.

[Geralt De Rivia]

Publicado originalmente por Antiga:

Publicado originalmente por Geralt De Rivia:

Start with the white wing, put 5 in everything and 10 in brains

Take Slacker trait

You get 2 perk points with the Slacker trait and -3 SP per level.

Take Rennaisance Man +1 to all attributes

Take Observant (Per 6 after Rennaisance man) and you get +3 SP per level.

Slacker and Observant cancel each other out

Since you get to select Rennaisance Man at lvl1, you get 6 extra SP at level 3 with no downsides

Thoughts?

You just spend a trait, something that can also give precious attribute points, on 2 perk points. Also the entire build is focused around being able to get Renaissance Man, which is going to be a jack of all trades, master of none. Observant does cancel slacker out, and yet you're on a lower potential SP gain than you could be, and spend a perk point on doing so. If this build is all about those 6 extra SP, those are canceled out after a few levels of having Observant without the Slacker Trait.

It could be a decent build for sure, but the reasons for going this exact path seem futile. For example, there is also a perk at lvl 9, which needs 9 perception and 9 charisma, which ends up giving you a lot of extra perk points. A 10 brain character with Silver wing will collect 22 SP and 25 SP after taking observant.

Personally I find it really difficult to create a character around Renaissance Man, knowing it can never be specialized. It's a very attractive perk, but in the end you end up raising stats you do not really need or use (Your "B" stats) , opposed to gaining or creating synergies.

Thanks for your inputs. I haven't played the game enough yet, but this was something I noticed right off the bat during character creation. Reading your post now makes me want to reroll. :D I am not too far into the game yet...