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Moine Mar 3, 2024 @ 8:14pm
Mana problem
Hi,
Any way for get any many leech in the game ? That is unfair for spell caster, most skill cost too much mana, that bad .

Minion bruild don't have that problem
Melee bruild don't have that problem

Make a love for mana for spell caster bruild .
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Steel Mar 3, 2024 @ 8:35pm 
I assure you the game is balanced around mana costs nicely, if a skill costs a lot of mana then it's probably very powerful, and you should build around that via mana cost reducing affixes and mana regeneration on your gear, as well as passive nodes and nodes within the skill to see if you can reduce the mana cost in other ways or get mana back. Or maybe hold off on those nodes that increase mana cost until you can sort it out.

If you're having mana problems that's part of the process of solving a build. Some other skills have little mana cost but are balanced by a cooldown instead, or they have no cooldown or mana cost but they're weak and need to be invested heavily to scale, and so on. Every type of build needs to work around different things.
SivartStoneheart Mar 3, 2024 @ 8:37pm 
The problem with Mana leech is many monsters should not have mana. Should they destroy world logic to add a equipment stat? It already has multiple game stats which help with mana plus passives that help with mana.
Moine Mar 3, 2024 @ 8:53pm 
I added all mana regen on my gear, on passive skill i added less many cost for skill + mana regen, on gear i get more mana flat, i use tornado skill, that is not very a strong skill .

And i want auto selft cast and no triggle it.

When i see minion do 200k critical damage and all time full mana and me juste for spawm 6 tornado i get constly out of mana for 2k hit what the problem ?

yea is 2k by tornado but i will never reach 200k damage like that with shaman class, thx to mana problem !

And for play avalanche selft cast rolf ? You tryed the cost of the skill ? mana from primaliste selft cast need a big love, because it unfair.
Last edited by Moine; Mar 3, 2024 @ 9:13pm
CyberDown Mar 3, 2024 @ 9:04pm 
mana regen
Tiasmoon Mar 3, 2024 @ 9:12pm 
Some skills generate mana. Others dont cost mana. Melee also has skills that cost mana.

You can use a skill that generates mana in your build.
Jarmer Mar 3, 2024 @ 9:16pm 
Mana regen is fine in this game, learn to build your build better.
stylez Mar 3, 2024 @ 9:17pm 
As someone with multiple spellcaster characters, I don't have an issue with mana. Read through the passives and skill nodes. Find ways to reduce cost, or get mana back under certain conditions, or just use a cheaper/free secondary spell while waiting for mana to recharge.
Moine Mar 3, 2024 @ 9:32pm 
Originally posted by Jarmer:
Mana regen is fine in this game, learn to build your build better.

That will no solve my probelm but thx for advice !
Moine Mar 3, 2024 @ 9:36pm 
I use the passive "Excited BOLT" because is alot more damage multi, but that cost me % mana.

More max mana = more damage, but = too more cost mana = less regen, because many regen don t scale with the mana pool point.

And need a leech mana for negate the 1% max mana cost !

Then that meam if i can get 100k mana, and i spawm 20 storm bolt with tornado that will cost me 20% mana sec anyway, then 1 million mana or 500 will be make out in 5sec of mana !

Is alot damage ! But befor i get mana limite regen, give me a good regen mana at the start ! Because Shaman don't have realy mana leech or mana regen for self cast ! all about totem, minion, rage !
Last edited by Moine; Mar 3, 2024 @ 9:49pm
Weird Potato Mar 3, 2024 @ 9:40pm 
Originally posted by SivartStoneheart:
The problem with Mana leech is many monsters should not have mana. Should they destroy world logic to add a equipment stat? It already has multiple game stats which help with mana plus passives that help with mana.
Your logic is flawed. Mana leech is not leeching mana like you're taking it literally. It's damage leeched as mana. No mental gymnastics are necessary. Mana leech makes just as much sense as life leech.

With that being said, the game is balanced around mana cost and there are always ways of sustaining mana cost. If you can't, then you don't have the gear /affixes necessary.
Knavenformed Mar 3, 2024 @ 10:08pm 
Tornado is a 25 mana spell with efficiency and regen on the same node
Shouldn't take even a second to recover from -mana
Are you expecting to just spam it like a Jakobs revolver or what?
Sapient_Pest Mar 3, 2024 @ 11:07pm 
Sounds like you're primalist, maybe? You are extremely difficult to understand. Off the top of my head you have both Swipe that can be made to regen mana through its skill tree and Gathering Storm which can be made to regen mana both through its skill tree and also from a 5-point bonus from a passive perk in the Shaman tree.
Last edited by Sapient_Pest; Mar 3, 2024 @ 11:08pm
Moine Mar 4, 2024 @ 5:22pm 
Originally posted by Sapient_Pest:
Sounds like you're primalist, maybe? You are extremely difficult to understand. Off the top of my head you have both Swipe that can be made to regen mana through its skill tree and Gathering Storm which can be made to regen mana both through its skill tree and also from a 5-point bonus from a passive perk in the Shaman tree.

That is your mistake right ? I don t use Gathering Storm you undertands now ? I use only storm bolt with tornado ! Now you undertand ? i have no bonus from stack from Gathering Storm.

For be more clean 2 passives i use from Gathering Storm converted lightning damage to physical and the cost more mana for do more damage !

All other won't work because i don't have any stack storm, or the dev need add a new way for get stacke storm then use only the Gathering Storm skill i don't use it in any way. i don't play werebear, i m humain form only.
Last edited by Moine; Mar 4, 2024 @ 5:27pm
Ravenkid9266 Mar 4, 2024 @ 5:24pm 
You are thinking of mana like a resource, when it is closer to a cool down.

Mana regen is a poor option given base.
+mana is a temporary extension.

LE does not want to say it but "builders" and "spenders" is the way to go, assuming you don't want to invest in mana reduction/simply wait it out.
Partyrock Mar 4, 2024 @ 5:27pm 
Mana regen is very powerful in this game. Highly recommended. And since it's percentage-based, having more mana makes the regen more potent.
Last edited by Partyrock; Mar 4, 2024 @ 5:27pm
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