Itemization is really bad..

[Pokelot]

Hello,

I love ARPG's, and I have played many hours of them. One thing that I see these type of games constantly fail on is itemization. Why on earth am I still getting low level items even dropping at late game? I am doing Echos and the reward is a Unique item and it turns out to be some level 29 item that isn't even usable for me..this is archaic itemization. This type of garbage loot has been solved in this genre and it just doesn't add fun to the game to constantly get crap unusable items that immediately get sold or shattered..

Please scale item levels with player level better.

[Altimely]

Considering that OP thinks item power is tied to the level requirement, I'm guessing they came from Diablo 4, where items only get mildly decent around level 60-80 and are trash before then.

[AtmaShinobi]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Pokelot:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Astasia:

That's not a problem, it's just you not understanding gear whatsoever. I'm guessing you are completely unfamiliar with this genre and your experience is in more basic RPGs where gearing is incredibly simplistic. It might take you some time to wrap your head around a looter game with actually interesting loot.

Nope. I don't really need to be insulted here. You're free to add your thoughts, but personally attacking me just proves to me that you're immature, nothing else.

If something says it's level 29 and I'm level 65, then it SHOULD be considered low level gear. It's the logical thing to assume here. If there are other systems at end-game, etc. They should be explained about earlier in-game.

Honestly this just seems like they couldn't figure out itemization and put some band-aid systems in place to try and make it make sense. But no, to any normal person, seeing "Level 19" on an item that drops in an Echo when I'm much higher level should mean its garbage. And for every one I've seen so far thats below level, they have been garbage.

no, you are lacking understanding of the game, you are the issue. go cry and be insulted.

[Grebloc]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Pokelot:

Hello,

I love ARPG's, and I have played many hours of them. One thing that I see these type of games constantly fail on is itemization. Why on earth am I still getting low level items even dropping at late game? I am doing Echos and the reward is a Unique item and it turns out to be some level 29 item that isn't even usable for me..this is archaic itemization. This type of garbage loot has been solved in this genre and it just doesn't add fun to the game to constantly get crap unusable items that immediately get sold or shattered..

Please scale item levels with player level better.

I love that you say these games constantly fail in this regard, then go on to claim that this problem is solved in other games...

Just my worthless 2 cents

[MerlinW]

It's not bad, it's actually pretty damn good. It's different than the others, what is again, very good. You just don't understand. Read the ingame guide and/or watch YT videos if you can't figure out.

[Tyrone Biggums]

after reading OP's message they def have not been using the loot filter at all i feel because this is literally a non issue for me and i have already leveled and geared 3 characters

please make or just download a loot filter to import

[⭐️Good⭐️Game⭐]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Pokelot:

Why on earth am I still getting low level items even dropping at late game?

You can filter out low level gear for something equal or higher. Low level item are not worthless. they can be used for crafting. In LE you are not farming item. You are farming for affix. If you encounter low level item with high tier affix with all the affix you want. It's quite godly because you can upgrade affix.

[Tyrone Biggums]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Terry:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Pokelot:

Why on earth am I still getting low level items even dropping at late game?

You can filter out low level gear for something equal or higher. Low level item are not worthless. they can be used for crafting. In LE you are not farming item. You are farming for affix

honestly i keep some of em on for rune of shattering

[oldschooldiablo]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Rhophius:

Uniques are not meant for endgame, Purples are with your own craft added to them.

What are u talking about. Yes they are depending on ur build I'm doing one now a dive bomb build that needs a unique that was added this patch.

U also have bow mage which needs regin of winter bow to even work

There are more than iv listed

[oldschooldiablo]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Pokelot:

Diposting pertama kali oleh J&JG Water Fountain:

low tier bait 3.5/10

Nah. Not really. I really would like to love this game more but this genuinely is a problem with the game. I don't see any motivation to continue doing Echos if I keep getting bombarded with loot that is completely useless and not even close to the correct level for me...

Dude, I want this game to be better.

Item lvls work different than other diablo like games ur used too.

Don't worry about the item lvl to much.

Majority of ur gear upgrades comes from crafting. U need to look for bases that drop

[Thorba]

lol the items are the one thing where this game really shines, you get constant new types of swords and armors and this till high lvl. This in combination with the great crafting gives you always upgrades and ways to improve the gear to your liking. But you are right the legendarys seems to be for specific builds only and mostly useless.

[TWEAKER TWEAKER PUMPKIN EATER]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Pokelot:

Diposting pertama kali oleh J&JG Water Fountain:

low tier bait 3.5/10

Nah. Not really. I really would like to love this game more but this genuinely is a problem with the game. I don't see any motivation to continue doing Echos if I keep getting bombarded with loot that is completely useless and not even close to the correct level for me...

Dude, I want this game to be better.

crazy to me how balding 40-50 y/o crackers still can't use google

[AirSniffer]

skill issue

[Djozar]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Pokelot:

Hello,

I love ARPG's, and I have played many hours of them. One thing that I see these type of games constantly fail on is itemization. Why on earth am I still getting low level items even dropping at late game? I am doing Echos and the reward is a Unique item and it turns out to be some level 29 item that isn't even usable for me..this is archaic itemization. This type of garbage loot has been solved in this genre and it just doesn't add fun to the game to constantly get crap unusable items that immediately get sold or shattered..

Please scale item levels with player level better.

Because you're concerned too much with skill levels and not what the item actually does for you. I used to think a lot like you do when I first started PoE and this game way back. Then, when I started playing more, and understanding WHY I was using a ;v; 53 staff (or w/e staff that is that has the skull head at the top that adds damage over time) for my Void Knight who was using melee abilities.

My logic told me swords were better. Better players than I am proved otherwise. The staff, even though a "lv; 53", had innates on it like Melee Dmg increase and Damage over time. All I had to do was find one with more DOT and attack speed/dmg or void dmg to bring it into line or better than a sword at my level at 90. So if you stop fghting people who know better because we've been where you are and learned, you'll see that the level to equip is NOT the same as what the weapon can do for you, even 50 levels later. One thing you need to learn is something from your opening statement... "I love ARPG's, and I have played many hours of them.". This isn't "other ARPG's". This is its own thing. I'd do some research online into build mechanics and how weapon item levels work in LE. If you're not going to take everyone else's word for it here, maybe ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sites will make a believer out of you. If not...

[TheKingOfThings]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Djozar:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Pokelot:

Hello,

I love ARPG's, and I have played many hours of them. One thing that I see these type of games constantly fail on is itemization. Why on earth am I still getting low level items even dropping at late game? I am doing Echos and the reward is a Unique item and it turns out to be some level 29 item that isn't even usable for me..this is archaic itemization. This type of garbage loot has been solved in this genre and it just doesn't add fun to the game to constantly get crap unusable items that immediately get sold or shattered..

Please scale item levels with player level better.

Because you're concerned too much with skill levels and not what the item actually does for you. I used to think a lot like you do when I first started PoE and this game way back. Then, when I started playing more, and understanding WHY I was using a ;v; 53 staff (or w/e staff that is that has the skull head at the top that adds damage over time) for my Void Knight who was using melee abilities.

My logic told me swords were better. Better players than I am proved otherwise. The staff, even though a "lv; 53", had innates on it like Melee Dmg increase and Damage over time. All I had to do was find one with more DOT and attack speed/dmg or void dmg to bring it into line or better than a sword at my level at 90. So if you stop fghting people who know better because we've been where you are and learned, you'll see that the level to equip is NOT the same as what the weapon can do for you, even 50 levels later. One thing you need to learn is something from your opening statement... "I love ARPG's, and I have played many hours of them.". This isn't "other ARPG's". This is its own thing. I'd do some research online into build mechanics and how weapon item levels work in LE. If you're not going to take everyone else's word for it here, maybe ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sites will make a believer out of you. If not...

You explained it well. The OP doesn't understand how gear works and how to utilize the crafting system. You can make any gear into anything you want, RNG is still there but I have had great success making some solid items. I had gloves that I found at lvl 10, upgraded and wore until lvl 55. They were that good for me and all I had to do was upgrade them.

[Perfection]

Learn to use a loot filter?