Why AGEs are treated like garbage?

[Teal V2]

I must miss something or I do not know, but... I am unable to understand why AGEs are treated like that. Kept in prison and saying

"It's fine if you die, we can replace you anytime."

AGEs are the new super soldiers against the threat of mankind. Everyone can see that how powerful they are as the Player's little group kills every single aragami they encounter, even the fearsome adaptive ones and the AGE eater.

And still, they are treated as mehs.

So...
This is my first GE game, ever. Am I missing something from the earlier ones?
Just because if I read it right, the top guys aka God Eaters were treated total fine.

Or it is an anime plot without any reasonable thoughts?

[scram]

Originally posted by 𝓣𝒆𝓪𝒍 𝓥𝟐:

Or it is an anime plot without any reasonable thoughts?

https://youtu.be/BLT2erau3zo

On a more serious note, it's lazy writing that casually ignores the need to highlight any percieved risk in having AGEs run amok. You'll hear of some AGEs setting off ash storms, but those instances are shown after the fact that they are mistreated severely.

It could also be (at least in the case of Pennywort) due to the fact that AGEs are made with orphan children (as opposed to regular God Eaters, who mostly start out as volunteering teenagers), and the moral implications of slave labor is something that fell to the wayside as Fenrir collapsed and the society it built fragmented into ports.

[Urfael]

AGEs possess higher resistance to ash
and because they generally possess extremely high levels of resonance and combat ability it makes them far more closer in nature to aragami than natural God Eaters

But For me That just how the devs wants the player to show connection to the character
The whole story of GE3 just doesn't make me care enough to follow because of how predictable is, there's to much of cliche in here

[Violatus]

First of all, the port the protagonist stays at the start of the game, the Pennywort port, prioritize results and profits above everything else, so they treated AGEs like a !@#$ that can be replaced any time (by putting homeless and orphan kids through AGE Aptitude Test to make new one).

Second, due to the fact that AGE's power and the usefulness they have is very concerning so Gleipnir issue a law that require AGEs have their restrains at all time when not during missions (explains the lock on the armlets, read Database for more). Also because AGEs are ash-resistant like the Ashborn, unlike Gen-1 and Gen-2 God Eaters who needs special Bias Factor to operate in the Ashlands but super limited in time, and also their physical abilities are superior than previous Generation God Eaters, AGEs are considered much more of an Aragami than a human.
That's why people call you the Demon of Chrysanthemum after you killed Balmung

Third, the previous games and this one are set in the same universe, some terms you might have to play the previous ones to have a better time understanding, but it is okay imo.

[Salmon Sashimi]

1st Gen God Eaters: Breakthrough discovery, nothng unique, deployed either as Melee or Range users.

2nd Gen God Eaters: Overall improvement from 1st Gen God Arc Technology, provided the combination of using both Melee and Range into 1 God Arc.

3rd Gen God Eaters: AGEs, with doubled(?) the possible amount of Bias Factor injected; seen as humans closer to resembling Aragamis due to biological makeup from the insane amount of Bias Factor used, effectively increasing the users strength, and capable of storming through the Ashlands with minimal/no harm.

With such power presented comes fear from the military/higher-ups; the "Law" treated them instead as objects/tools for missions/deployables.

This is also 10+ years after the end of GB2RB scene; so much has change, and Aragamis evolved. Humanity is still dying. In short, AGEs are just forcefully made to fight against the Ash outbreak and are only seen as mere disposables. (Note that all AGEs are children, except for a certain someone.)

Hate is pretty much discrimination towards AGEs + apocalyptic situations.

[Null_User]

AGEs are treated as lesser beings because the level of corruption in them makes them, to the eyes of others, more monsters than humans. The twin armlet device serves the dual purpose of controlling the corruption and controlling the AGE from going into a rampage, as they can be set into handcuff mode at will. It's implied that many AGEs are orphans left to fend for themselves and who would have anyway died if they didn't go seek the official Gleipnir aptitude test, which is why I believe they are seen as expendable. Also, in the last scene with Werner, it's implied that Gleipnir soldiers hate AGEs because they have killed many of them as well. This would make sense if Crimson Queen is doing terrorist attacks that killed Gleipnir forces or even civilians.

If you check the intro again, when the player sits in the chair to become an AGE, the automated voice describes the steps taken. First is ash corruption (dark veins envelop the character's arms). Then it's bias factor (first armlet closes). Then god arc acknowledging (god arc is presented for the character to hold), and lastly ash corruption control (second armlet closes). The guard then tells the player that they have lost their humanity and asks them to sign a document.

Pennyworth Port was the worst at treating AGEs, but the xenophobia and mistreatment was present almost everywhere. Baran was a very successful port that like Pennyworth did things with only end results and profit in mind. Only Dusty Miller and Chrysanthemum preferred to treat AGEs as equal human beings.

AGEs could create ash storms only if they implanted a device into themselves created by Baran. This port was making huge profits from nurturing both sides of the war between Gleipnir and Crimson Queen.

Another thing to note is that this is the Europe area. If this game happened in the far East Branch, I'm sure Dr. Sasaki wouldn't have allowed such mistreatment in the first place, and would have made all efforts to portray AGEs as simply upgraded God Eaters.

[CLG]

It makes a lot of sense since there's a terrorist organization openly fighting the established powers in the region. AGEs are too dangerous and a liability at the end of the day but they are necessary.

[Khryst]

You also have to remember that civilization has somewhat fallen even further then when the Aragami first showed up. At least in the area of the world GE3 takes place, we aren't sure about the other areas as of right now.

The world was pretty much run by Fenrir HQ through the various branches and when the Calamity occurred Fenrir HQ was lost. Which caused the survivors to basically go into panic mode and start fighting each other over resources/land/etc. until Glepnir (which is/was the Military of Fenrir) stepped up and created a set of "rules" the various survivors followed.

But even after that the ports still governed themselves individually with different ideals/methods. Basically causing the ashlands to be in a way much like the old greek city states.

Couple that with the fact that most AGEs are given a modified version of the bias factor Soma (he himself believed he was less than human and a monster till events from the first game) was given and that most are orphans it's easy (even if not good) to see how AGEs could be seen as property rather then human beings.

Is it right? no, but that's what happened.

[hotaru251]

ELI5 edition:
AGE's are GE with(iir) some ash injected into them to make their body resistant to the ashlands (like how we use poison to make antidotes irl)

also likely some higher ups knew the risk of them triggering ashstorms (so they were walking timebombs and that scares ppl)

and ofc the ppl in charge needed sacrifices so they spread hatred of them so masses follow.


also does soma even need bias factor? thought his natural birth with it made him not at risk of beign eaten by his oracle cells?

[suksas]

Originally posted by 𝓣𝒆𝓪𝒍 𝓥𝟐:

I must miss something or I do not know, but... I am unable to understand why AGEs are treated like that. Kept in prison and saying

"It's fine if you die, we can replace you anytime."

AGEs are the new super soldiers against the threat of mankind. Everyone can see that how powerful they are as the Player's little group kills every single aragami they encounter, even the fearsome adaptive ones and the AGE eater.

And still, they are treated as mehs.

So...
This is my first GE game, ever. Am I missing something from the earlier ones?
Just because if I read it right, the top guys aka God Eaters were treated total fine.

Or it is an anime plot without any reasonable thoughts?

AGEs a re closer to aragami than humans. And majority of them are orphans. And there are a lot of orphans.

The game makes a big deal out of the fact that your MC is a Goddess/god amongst AGE. The other Ages are not as impressive as you.

[Spikeheadboy]

Originally posted by Dat Smol Yellow Boi:

1st Gen God Eaters: Breakthrough discovery, nothng unique, deployed either as Melee or Range users.

2nd Gen God Eaters: Overall improvement from 1st Gen God Arc Technology, provided the combination of using both Melee and Range into 1 God Arc.

3rd Gen God Eaters: AGEs, with doubled(?) the possible amount of Bias Factor injected; seen as humans closer to resembling Aragamis due to biological makeup from the insane amount of Bias Factor used, effectively increasing the users strength, and capable of storming through the Ashlands with minimal/no harm.

With such power presented comes fear from the military/higher-ups; the "Law" treated them instead as objects/tools for missions/deployables.

This is also 10+ years after the end of GB2RB scene; so much has change, and Aragamis evolved. Humanity is still dying. In short, AGEs are just forcefully made to fight against the Ash outbreak and are only seen as mere disposables. (Note that all AGEs are children, except for a certain someone.)

Hate is pretty much discrimination towards AGEs + apocalyptic situations.

Aren't AGE's chronogically 4th gen eaters? 3rd gen eaters were those from Blood team and it was unknown if there were more 3rd gen eaters.

[Tregarde]

Originally posted by Cute Little Girl💕:

It makes a lot of sense since there's a terrorist organization openly fighting the established powers in the region. AGEs are too dangerous and a liability at the end of the day but they are necessary.

You have to remember, those 'terrorists' are mostly AGEs who have escaped. They wouldn't have needed to do so if they weren't treated like slaves.

Then again, I'd say it was Baran that did more horrible things than Crimson Moon.

[suksas]

Originally posted by Spikeheadboy:

Aren't AGE's technically 4th gen eaters? 3rd gen eaters were those from Blood team and it was unknown if there were more 3rd gen eaters.

Depends. Some see them as 3rd gen and consider blood unit to still be second gen since anyone in second gen can activate blood powers.

[Algester]

in GE2 Blood Unit is considered 2.5 Gen as they are second gen but their God Arcs have been modified to fight Psions

Reading the dictionary entries state that the Bias-75c was used with the Retro Oracle cells harvested from the Kyuubi (or at least the adaptive part of the bias factor), added benefit of the adapative Bias Factor is that AGEs can use any God Arcs without the "being devoured" by the God Arc drawbacks probably as there has been less God Eaters to be compatible to the old god arcs (and that making new God Arcs maybe relatively be expensive) that would be normally be kept in storage if the previous owner dies

[Egro]

Originally posted by suksas:

Originally posted by Spikeheadboy:

Aren't AGE's technically 4th gen eaters? 3rd gen eaters were those from Blood team and it was unknown if there were more 3rd gen eaters.

Depends. Some see them as 3rd gen and consider blood unit to still be second gen since anyone in second gen can activate blood powers.

Nope only Blood can have Blood Power. All blood are 3rd Gen. 1st Gen and 2nd Gen can be upgraded to 3rd Gens if they compatible with P66.

[Algester]

Originally posted by Egro:

Originally posted by suksas:

Depends. Some see them as 3rd gen and consider blood unit to still be second gen since anyone in second gen can activate blood powers.

Nope only Blood can have Blood Power. All blood are 3rd Gen. 1st Gen and 2nd Gen can be upgraded to 3rd Gens if they compatible with P66.

... no? P66 only has the ability to awaken blood power (its not a total guarantee it will awaken anything similar) I dont think its easy to change your Bias Factors since the chances of the GE dying is high.

but by the time GE3 rolls out the lore is kicked in the D and doesnt give a dam