Buying this version

[Relyks2000]

I'm one of those semi-ocd gamers that likes to 100% everything in their library. I was looking at the enhanced version of this game but it looks like it comes with both that version AND this version as separate library entries. I was thinking of buying a third party key for the older GOTY version so my brain doesn't nag me endlessly to have to 100% both versions (like I did for me to Exodus gold version). Any reason I shouldn't do that? (Ex broken achievements or mp requirements or just too old to run right)

[Weekend Kid]

I am completing both myself and achievements are alright. Just that there are 3 of them very long and a complete pain in the arse, but for the rest everything seems fine. I just completed yesterday enhanced and now i am with the classic game. Up to u.

Regards

[Weekend Kid]

Originally posted by Weekend Kid:

I am completing both myself and achievements are alright. Just that there are 3 of them very long and a complete pain in the arse, but for the rest everything seems fine. I just completed yesterday enhanced and now i am with the classic game. Up to u.

Regards

Do not worry about mp bcs they are pretty easy to get but the game is a bit dead. I can help u myself. I will subscribe to this post and give u a hand whenever, no problem.

[Relyks2000]

Originally posted by Weekend Kid:

I am completing both myself and achievements are alright. Just that there are 3 of them very long and a complete pain in the arse, but for the rest everything seems fine. I just completed yesterday enhanced and now i am with the classic game. Up to u.

Regards

Thanks I may end up having to do what you did. I bought a key just now specifically for the GOTY edition (clearly labeled as such) but when I redeemed it, it turns out to be the Enhanced version having both games. I didn't really want to have to play through an 80-100 hour game twice I've emailed them to see what they can tell me but this may be my only option. Maybe all the old keys just redeem as then enhanced version now?

[Weekend Kid]

Originally posted by Relyks2000:

Originally posted by Weekend Kid:

I am completing both myself and achievements are alright. Just that there are 3 of them very long and a complete pain in the arse, but for the rest everything seems fine. I just completed yesterday enhanced and now i am with the classic game. Up to u.

Regards

Thanks :happystar2022: I may end up having to do what you did. I bought a key just now specifically for the GOTY edition (clearly labeled as such) but when I redeemed it, it turns out to be the Enhanced version having both games. I didn't really want to have to play through an 80-100 hour game twice :Hearthian_Dead: I've emailed them to see what they can tell me but this may be my only option. Maybe all the old keys just redeem as then enhanced version now?

You do not need to play the game twice bcs you can transfer your character from classic borderlands to enhanced's. You would still need to complete achievements for both, but most of the achievements would be done by transfering the character to the new version of the game.

If you are a completitionist, i would advuce you to play classic game, but enhanced version is the better of them. I would say buy both, anyway the experience of borderlands 1 is unique. I myself do not regret to have played the game at least 5 times entirely.

[Relyks2000]

Originally posted by Weekend Kid:

Originally posted by Relyks2000:

Thanks I may end up having to do what you did. I bought a key just now specifically for the GOTY edition (clearly labeled as such) but when I redeemed it, it turns out to be the Enhanced version having both games. I didn't really want to have to play through an 80-100 hour game twice I've emailed them to see what they can tell me but this may be my only option. Maybe all the old keys just redeem as then enhanced version now?

You do not need to play the game twice bcs you can transfer your character from classic borderlands to enhanced's. You would still need to complete achievements for both, but most of the achievements would be done by transfering the character to the new version of the game.

If you are a completitionist, i would advuce you to play classic game, but enhanced version is the better of them. I would say buy both, anyway the experience of borderlands 1 is unique. I myself do not regret to have played the game at least 5 times entirely.

As you noted it does look like you can transfer many of the achievements and get most of the others with relatively little amount of work (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1747108465), though it does appear, per that link, that there are about 6 achievements that require a 99% second playthrough. I'll likely just bite the bullet and start with the classic version so I can ultimately carry over.

[(kl0n) ᗜˬᗜ 👍]

Originally posted by Relyks2000:

Originally posted by Weekend Kid:

You do not need to play the game twice bcs you can transfer your character from classic borderlands to enhanced's. You would still need to complete achievements for both, but most of the achievements would be done by transfering the character to the new version of the game.

If you are a completitionist, i would advuce you to play classic game, but enhanced version is the better of them. I would say buy both, anyway the experience of borderlands 1 is unique. I myself do not regret to have played the game at least 5 times entirely.

As you noted it does look like you can transfer many of the achievements and get most of the others with relatively little amount of work (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1747108465), though it does appear, per that link, that there are about 6 achievements that require a 99% second playthrough. I'll likely just bite the bullet and start with the classic version so I can ultimately carry over.

It's very chaotic seeing what will and won't need repeating when carrying your save over to the Enhanced version. Most efficient thing to do is play ALL content on Playthrough 1 across the base game and expansions, but do NOT play anything on "Playthrough 2" until after you switch your character save over to Enhanced edition.

Luckily the first 3 expansions will not need replay for their main story on Enhanced, but you will need to revisit DLC 4 on your Playthrough 2 to speedrun its story (but make sure to keep an eye on your Tannis scrap quests). You'll also need to revisit DLC 3 for the optional objective achievements, like the loot midgets and Crawmerax.

[Relyks2000]

Originally posted by (kl0n) ᗜˬᗜ 👍:

Originally posted by Relyks2000:

As you noted it does look like you can transfer many of the achievements and get most of the others with relatively little amount of work (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1747108465), though it does appear, per that link, that there are about 6 achievements that require a 99% second playthrough. I'll likely just bite the bullet and start with the classic version so I can ultimately carry over.

It's very chaotic seeing what will and won't need repeating when carrying your save over to the Enhanced version. Most efficient thing to do is play ALL content on Playthrough 1 across the base game and expansions, but do NOT play anything on "Playthrough 2" until after you switch your character save over to Enhanced edition.

Luckily the first 3 expansions will not need replay for their main story on Enhanced, but you will need to revisit DLC 4 on your Playthrough 2 to speedrun its story (but make sure to keep an eye on your Tannis scrap quests). You'll also need to revisit DLC 3 for the optional objective achievements, like the loot midgets and Crawmerax.

That's the gist of what I was reading elsewhere. Thanks for the confirmation. I was going to use that link I shared above as a guide.

[(kl0n) ᗜˬᗜ 👍]

Just for full disclosure, I did help a friend speedrun unlocking all their achievements, which they did start off by using their save from OG edition. Mentioning because we accomplished 100% of unlocks for my friend in under 8 hours by utilising some co-op skips.

[Relyks2000]

Originally posted by (kl0n) ᗜˬᗜ 👍:

Just for full disclosure, I did help a friend speedrun unlocking all their achievements, which they did start off by using their save from OG edition. Mentioning because we accomplished 100% of unlocks for my friend in under 8 hours by utilising some co-op skips.

Wow. That sounds like a subject for a guide.

[(kl0n) ᗜˬᗜ 👍]

Originally posted by Relyks2000:

Originally posted by (kl0n) ᗜˬᗜ 👍:

Just for full disclosure, I did help a friend speedrun unlocking all their achievements, which they did start off by using their save from OG edition. Mentioning because we accomplished 100% of unlocks for my friend in under 8 hours by utilising some co-op skips.

Wow. That sounds like a subject for a guide.

Let me tell you that to get any real use out of a guide with consistent strategies on pulling this kind of thing off in under 10 hours, you'd also need a really dedicated co-op partner (or 3) who didn't mind wasting equal amounts of their own time prepping their characters to help you skip huge chunks of achievement-less gameplay (like the void between clearing the Rust Commons all-mission achievement and killing the final boss -- my solution was to just host the area before that fight in the main campaign) and just have my friend join me for it).

Generally I did mean that anecdote as a positive way to say that you probably won't need more than 20 hours on Enhanced in total. Either way, make sure you enjoy your time where it counts, in the OG version!

[Relyks2000]

Originally posted by Weekend Kid:

Originally posted by Weekend Kid:

I am completing both myself and achievements are alright. Just that there are 3 of them very long and a complete pain in the arse, but for the rest everything seems fine. I just completed yesterday enhanced and now i am with the classic game. Up to u.

Regards

Do not worry about mp bcs they are pretty easy to get but the game is a bit dead. I can help u myself. I will subscribe to this post and give u a hand whenever, no problem.

With regards to the MP achievements, does it make any difference what level I am? I started yesterday and I'm at level 15, but not sure if it's beneficial to be lower or higher if playing with a higher player. I would assume higher, but didn't know if enemies spawn at lower levels with a lower character. I get the impression if I complete quests but don't turn them in, they can count toward the 15 coop missions - do you know if that is true?

[(kl0n) ᗜˬᗜ 👍]

Originally posted by Relyks2000:

Originally posted by Weekend Kid:

Do not worry about mp bcs they are pretty easy to get but the game is a bit dead. I can help u myself. I will subscribe to this post and give u a hand whenever, no problem.

With regards to the MP achievements, does it make any difference what level I am? I started yesterday and I'm at level 15, but not sure if it's beneficial to be lower or higher if playing with a higher player. I would assume higher, but didn't know if enemies spawn at lower levels with a lower character. I get the impression if I complete quests but don't turn them in, they can count toward the 15 coop missions - do you know if that is true?

MP achievements require you to just play the game normally with a teammate. I suppose in the case of winning a duel and arena match, you would need to be close enough in level that it wouldn't take over a minute to scrape their health down. For the 15-mission co-op achievement, that takes no effort at all, you literally play the game exactly the same as you would've solo. Just, y'know, make sure that you DON'T complete any missions solo before getting that achievement.

[Relyks2000]

Originally posted by (kl0n) ᗜˬᗜ 👍:

Originally posted by Relyks2000:

Wow. That sounds like a subject for a guide.

(like the void between clearing the Rust Commons all-mission achievement and killing the final boss -- my solution was to just host the area before that fight in the main campaign) and just have my friend join me for it).

Thank you for this blurb as it gave me an idea. When I got to the vault on my first playthrough on the GOTY version, I closed the game and made a copy of my main save file then renamed it to another "number". When I opened the game again, it recognized that copied save file as an exact but separate copy of that playthrough at that point. When I eventually finished and ported into the Enhanced version, I was able to load up that save after doing the playthrough to get all the other quests, bypassing that "void" of time you referred to.

[(kl0n) ᗜˬᗜ 👍]

Originally posted by Relyks2000:

Originally posted by (kl0n) ᗜˬᗜ 👍:

(like the void between clearing the Rust Commons all-mission achievement and killing the final boss -- my solution was to just host the area before that fight in the main campaign) and just have my friend join me for it).

Thank you for this blurb as it gave me an idea. When I got to the vault on my first playthrough on the GOTY version, I closed the game and made a copy of my main save file then renamed it to another "number". When I opened the game again, it recognized that copied save file as an exact but separate copy of that playthrough at that point. When I eventually finished and ported into the Enhanced version, I was able to load up that save after doing the playthrough to get all the other quests, bypassing that "void" of time you referred to.

Glad I could help! Good luck with the rest of your Enhanced achievements as well.