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FoXi Jul 9, 2022 @ 9:08am
Puppet or annex city?
Green player here, took the Sparta and made peace with Athens, should I keep it as a puppet or it would be better to annex it? Thanks fellas!
Originally posted by Amanoob105:
Long answer.
https://civilization.fandom.com/wiki/Conquered_cities_(Civ5)

Short answer.
They're basically two different versions of the same thing.
Puppet means you can't pick what the city does or builds even once any resistance has been stamped out, but there is less of an unhappiness penalty.
Annex means that after all resistance has been stamped out you can directly tell it what to do, but at a cost of more unhappiness. At least until you tell it to build a Courthouse.

If you've only taken the one city and your happiness isn't in the toilet you may as well just annex it.
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Amanoob105 Jul 9, 2022 @ 11:05am 
Long answer.
https://civilization.fandom.com/wiki/Conquered_cities_(Civ5)

Short answer.
They're basically two different versions of the same thing.
Puppet means you can't pick what the city does or builds even once any resistance has been stamped out, but there is less of an unhappiness penalty.
Annex means that after all resistance has been stamped out you can directly tell it what to do, but at a cost of more unhappiness. At least until you tell it to build a Courthouse.

If you've only taken the one city and your happiness isn't in the toilet you may as well just annex it.
zxcvbob Jul 9, 2022 @ 11:55am 
You should start out as a puppet and maybe annex it later. UNLESS you have taken the Order tenet called "Iron Curtain", then most of the time you want to either annex or raze immediately. (only puppet if you never intend to annex that city)

Other than that Iron Curtain exception, there is no downside to puppeting first and then maybe annexing later. (my problem is I often never annex puppet cities long after they could actually be productive.)
Sep Jul 9, 2022 @ 6:11pm 
puppet 1st, annex later..
clif9710 Jul 9, 2022 @ 10:47pm 
What Sep says.

You take a bigger happiness hit with immediate annexation. That means slower progress toward your next golden age and it might put you into unhappiness, always an ugh for several reasons.

Annex or puppet, nothing can be built by you for a certain number of turns, quite a few if it is a large city (number of no-action turns is shown with the red fist in the city marquee when you zoom in on it), Nor can you override the city manager to direct the workers for that period.

I like to have a fund for buying a courthouse as soon as the no-action (resistance) turns end popping happiness back up ASAP in that way.
Bfloo Jul 11, 2022 @ 3:46am 
I usually just annex cities, depending on if I can take the happiness hit. If I can't, I usually just destroy the other civ's army, then offer peace in exchange for resources.

Be careful when you get offered a bunch of cities in a peace dea, it may make you go negative happiness.
Mark Loring Jul 11, 2022 @ 7:33am 
Been playing this game since Day 1 release. Never ever puppeted a city once. That's just me. I'd rather have full control & an immediate happiness hit than to have a autonomous puppet building things I might not need in the long run.
blkbutterfly Jul 11, 2022 @ 12:49pm 
Puppet always :steamhappy:

I totally miss this in Civ VI.
DerEider Jul 11, 2022 @ 3:53pm 
Another consideration about annexing a conquered city is that adds to the city/population count of your empire. In turn, That increases Social Policy costs and production costs of certain buildings/wonders.

Choosing to puppet a conquered city defers these costs until you later decide to annex it.
Last edited by DerEider; Jul 11, 2022 @ 3:54pm
Grendalcat Jul 11, 2022 @ 5:27pm 
When playing for a Domination win, I almost always puppet the capitals that must be taken.
Sometimes I annex a city upon capture, or later on, if I want to build units in it.
clif9710 Jul 11, 2022 @ 8:13pm 
Another reason to puppet...

You may be building or are about to build something that requires all of your cities to have a building that the city you captured does not. For example, Building Oxford University first requires universities in every city. If you puppet a city that doesn't have a university, you can keep right on building Oxford, finish it and then annex. You can then build a university (or not) in that annexed city as it is no longer needed for your already built Oxford.

But if you annex right away then Oxford is halted until you build (or buy) the university in the annexed city and you can't even start building that university you need until resistance has ended in that city.
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