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Shot_Trip Sep 26, 2019 @ 7:06pm
[BIG SPOILERS] General secrets thread.
For compiling knowledge and the like.

This isn't about the trip from the Mines to the end of the game. There is far more here - a deeper secret - that has yet to be found. This is the thread for discussing these strange secrets, and how to find more.

WHAT IS KNOWN
Take a look:
https://imgur.com/a/Hb7kFiW

As you can see, the lands are far vaster than the simple run into the mines and down the world. The text you see in the background, on some pedestals, etc, can also be translated. Should one travel - somehow - past the East wall, they enter an alternate world called East, where the tree is missing, and various other things have been altered.

I'll probably edit this post with further discoveries that I find from places across the internet, almost none of this was found by myself, after all. I'm just collecting it and want it in one place.

ALCHEMY
You can mix fluids, with some careful direction, to make new solutions. Three are known of: Alchemical Precursor, Drought of Midas, and Living Concoction. The former uses a process we don't know how to achieve just yet (detailed in one of the Emerald Tablets) in the game, and the other is made with Precursor, blood, and water. It makes gold out of other things. Living Concoction is some sort of healing potion made from Toxic Sludge and water. Again, I don't know how this is made.
Last edited by Shot_Trip; Sep 26, 2019 @ 7:20pm
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Hobo Sep 26, 2019 @ 7:35pm 
Have you found anything about making alchemical precursor? Drought of Midas sounds really cool.
Shot_Trip Sep 26, 2019 @ 7:38pm 
From the only ingame knowledge that I know of:
"Take, he tells us, the stone of gold, combine with humour which is permanent water, set in its vessel, over a gentle fire until liquefaction takes place. Then leave it until the water dries, and the sand and water are combined, one with another, then let the fire be more intense than before, until it again becomes dry, and is made earth. When this is done, understand that here is the beginning of the arcanum; but do this many times, until two-thirds of the water perish, and colours manifest unto you."

... Yeah, I can't make heads or tails of it either. I wasn't even aware heat did anything in this game.
Angela™ Sep 26, 2019 @ 7:48pm 
There's liquid fire bottles that are essentially napalm and burn pretty much infinitely, but sprayable as a liquid and other fluids, so maybe that? The only other thing i can think of is sometimes small cinders don't go out even in water, but producing those seems to happen randomly.

All i know is that all those emerald tablets can be traded in for gold at the sky island orb right above spawning point and a bit to the right.

I've found a good majority of all the orbs in the game so far and the main purpose of them until more is known seems to be unlocking new spells to appear in the game. On subsequent playthroughs, each orb you've already found transforms into a maxhp+ orb.

There also is a randomly spawning crevice under the tree left of spawn that takes you under part of the tree but it's underwater and you'd drown if you go in right away. There's another tablet at the end, which i can't remember clearly but mentions something about sacrificing yourself or something for the greater good. There's no orb accompanying this one.

That's all i got. I've never even seen precursor or any of the liquids mentioned.

What i do know is that eating the purple shrooms in the fungal "biome" makes the game pretty mellow and cool to look at. 10/10 would reccomend.
lexilogo Sep 26, 2019 @ 7:50pm 
Heat does appear to be a mechanic, water can transition between the three states of matter. I don't believe any other elements really can, seeing as while stuff like Toxic Sludge can become Toxic Gas/Ice, the transformations in those cases appear permanent.

I am very pleasantly surprised if alchemy is indeed a thing and I look forward to experimenting with it myself, though I will note I've seen a lot of fluids mix and never observed any alchemy take place so far.



Originally posted by Shot_Trip:
From the only ingame knowledge that I know of:
"Take, he tells us, the stone of gold, combine with humour which is permanent water, set in its vessel, over a gentle fire until liquefaction takes place. Then leave it until the water dries, and the sand and water are combined, one with another, then let the fire be more intense than before, until it again becomes dry, and is made earth. When this is done, understand that here is the beginning of the arcanum; but do this many times, until two-thirds of the water perish, and colours manifest unto you."

From that, the cooking instructions sound like:

-Allow gold and water to mix
-Heat up the water until the gold mixes with it?
-Sand came out of nowhere but I guess you add sand to combine the sand and water together
-Heat up the mixture until you get earth?

And I guess at that point you keep adding and evaporating water, making sure to leave some, and that produces the mixture? Seems pretty confusing but I'm sure people will figure it out.
Hobo Sep 26, 2019 @ 7:51pm 
You can also drink worm blood which makes the colors strobe like you took a small dose of acid, I wonder if there's anything else you can do with worm blood considering they didn't just use regular blood for worms. I bet it's something to do with alchemy.
Hobo Sep 26, 2019 @ 7:53pm 
I also just realized that there are spells you can get for wands that drop small units of stuff like concrete and water, I bet they included that for alchemy. I wonder if it's possible to find sand and coal to make alchemy easier.
Darkwood Sep 26, 2019 @ 9:11pm 
By heaven and Earth and hell, I have sworn!
Has anyone gotten into the inner part of '???',
also I almost got 4 tablets, except I couldnt get safely to the tree one.

Anyone got all 4?

Ill try to make gold using alchemy though later, see how it goes
K9Pepper Sep 26, 2019 @ 10:30pm 
Originally posted by Darkwood:
By heaven and Earth and hell, I have sworn!
Has anyone gotten into the inner part of '???',
also I almost got 4 tablets, except I couldnt get safely to the tree one.

Anyone got all 4?

Ill try to make gold using alchemy though later, see how it goes
I've been inside ??? There's a perk called "Essence of light" That sprays light bolts around you every so often at no cost. But it also causes small explosions that can only do 1 damage each to you. So if you're standing still you'll eventually just die without explosion immunity.
Also it appears to do exact damage to monsters(Meaning it does exactly there hp in damage and nothing more) , meaning it's possible that it 1-hits anything it comes in contact with. Have yet to do able to test it further then learning the following info.
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K9Pepper Sep 26, 2019 @ 10:40pm 
So I turned in 3 tablets (the first 3 with a green glow from 2 on floor 1 and the 1 from desert.)
- Gold spawned in it's place

Upon turning in the one with the blue glow (the tree tablet)
-This happened, and notice you still get a "reward" aka gold.
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FarflungAssuredBug-size_restricted.gif

For those curious about what appears in the gif it's apparently a kelvetinkatse or Helvetinkatse? Evidence - http://puu.sh/ElVra/9a0e52059d.jpg
Last edited by K9Pepper; Sep 26, 2019 @ 10:50pm
Zukabazuka Sep 26, 2019 @ 10:59pm 
Helvetinkatse is Finnish and the short translation of my basic Finnish it translate to "Most hellish" A lot of the mobs name are Finnish too.
Kai Sep 26, 2019 @ 11:10pm 
You gotta be lucky to get 'edit wands' perk above ground before you enter the portal into the depths... Because there is very little ways to get by stuff without that.

And no one knows if it's possible to get back to the surface after you warped below it, as there are 'extremely' dense rock blocking the way, which can be eaten away with black hole and the likes (possibly possible to dig using a drill spell).
๖ۣۜBoojaxD© Sep 26, 2019 @ 11:33pm 
Originally posted by Kai:
You gotta be lucky to get 'edit wands' perk above ground before you enter the portal into the depths... Because there is very little ways to get by stuff without that.

And no one knows if it's possible to get back to the surface after you warped below it, as there are 'extremely' dense rock blocking the way, which can be eaten away with black hole and the likes (possibly possible to dig using a drill spell).
I traveled to the right over the lava lake on layer one and got the orb and tablet there, then I dropped down as far as I could and ended up on the right side of the snow level (3rd level) so it could be possible that you can climb back up on the right. I dont know if its possible from the second level, but the ice level should be doable.
Kaynato Sep 27, 2019 @ 1:05am 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ru2x4eoihy1spx9/cartograph2.png?dl=0

After a lot of pain and figuring out coordinates I managed to do a survey and label as much stuff as I did, being distracted by non-dungeon stuff...
Will finish later with dungeon geographic survey, but for now this is the most complete, 1/16 scale survey I think anyone has done.

Special objects should be consistent across worldgens, for now.
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Vaecancy Sep 27, 2019 @ 1:28am 
lol well im not sure why for some reason i thought i would be the first person to find the works but imma still share my story, i climed up the left side wall for a few hours then gave up about two hours after the fog of war broke and wanted to see how far to the right i could go and i ended up high enough in the works that my game was lagging almost too bad to close it
I've seen on Discord there is even a cheese Moon above. Not usefull.
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