Shimbori one of the few devs who supported fanservice stepped down

[Providence 777]

Shimbori is the reason DOA5, DOAX3, and DOA6 have any fanservice at all.

And he's stepped down as director for DOA6, which is sad because without him, we have no guarantee of getting fanservice ever again.

The push to town down the series comes from investors and platform holders.
Shimbori, was one of the only devs working to keep adding fanservice to the titles despite explicit direction from platform holders and retailers (remember, the brick and mortar retailers are the ones responsible for blocking DOAX3 from being sold in the west).

Shimbori has been actively subverting them for years by adding fanservice to the DOA games over time. Meanwhile the SJWs responsible for pushing censorship are still in power, and we just lost one of the few devs who was sneaking content past them.

For God sake, get informed!

Without him, we have no guarantee that we'll ever see fanservice in this series ever again.
https://youtu.be/6vKTgMHcxnE

[Blue Eyes White Coffee]

well now shimbori is not directing the game we can skip the whole bikini outfits and put our prioritize on getting DOA to FGC tournament like EVO
/s

seriously though let's just be optimistic that whoever this "another reliable Team Ninja member" is, he's trying to revive the game

[Lupo89]

This post pretty much says it as it is. Everyone who says he is sjw, is full of ♥♥♥♥, the guy promoted the game in japan with boobs and ass mouse pads, and it was hilarious.
As i said somewhere, is easy to blame Shimbori, after all he could not deliver on the time window KT left them for their fiscal year.

[hightime1011]

Didn't game us DOA Fans want and the sale is poor no doubt. Continue not giving what fans want just gonna dry up the game! Am a fan but if they don't deliver on fanservice and nice swimwear and more female fighter over male characters. No deal. DOA 5 LR was amazing with all the nice halloween costumes and bikini. It just a escape of the real life. I who play DOA for the fight and pretty fighters. Think they change their mind once money not rolling in. Free core fighter yeah with million download but not even a dime made. But I digress profit from free core fighter do $$ but just how much compare to Full game buyers ?

[Kuriishi]

I wonder if they're bringing Yosuke Hayashi back

[Providence 777]

Originally posted by hightime1011:

Didn't game us DOA Fans want and the sale is poor no doubt. Continue not giving what fans want just gonna dry up the game! Am a fan but if they don't deliver on fanservice and nice swimwear and more female fighter over male characters. No deal. DOA 5 LR was amazing with all the nice halloween costumes and bikini. It just a escape of the real life. I who play DOA for the fight and pretty fighters. Think they change their mind once money not rolling in. Free core fighter yeah with million download but not even a dime made. But I digress profit from free core fighter do $$ but just how much compare to Full game buyers ?:lunar2019wavingpig:

RELAX

DOA5 didn't launch with all that extra fanservice, that stuff was added later over time, and eventually became DOA5LR

Be patient and DOA6 should get extra fanservice added over time, we just have to make sure that Koei knows that how important fanvervice is in fighting games, and hopefully Shimbori still has enough influence to sneak in more fanservice.

[Providence 777]

Oh and I got news for all of you, those ugly costumes for the girls being "default" was a last minute decision made before the reveal of the game, same with Ayane.

The file names (when you break into the archives) label most of those new costumes as "COS 003" or, "004", and even "005", while file names for their classic costumes are "COS 001" indicating they were always meant to be default.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1713503514
My Ayane mod only works by using their naming convention, which has her classic costume listed as the first entry (COS_001)

So it's obvious that the director intended to have the best classic costumes serve as default, something changed before the reveal, and they made the 3rd, 4th, and 5th costumes become the new defaults.

Shimbori had our backs the whole time! It's clear that the someone beyond the devs are responsible for pushing this effort to tone down the series.

[Monterossa]

Even if Shimbori himself likes fan services, he didn't try to protect the core values of the franchises. All the "toning down" talks and interviews he's been doing for almost a year caused a lot of damages to the franchise and DOA6 crashed and burned because of that.

He did tone it down, no matter how you want to believe it. He hided sexiness behind the default outfits and that discouraged people from buying the game, especially the casuals who only seen unimpressive outfits from showcase screenshots and trailers.

One last thing, I don't believe that the higher ups in Koei Tecmo forced him to do any of this.

From what I've read, KT board members didn't like the direction Shimbori was taking DOA6 to, and they warned him that the fans will leave the franchise behind. That's why he changed his attitudes a little when the game was about to release, saying that he's been lying for months to hide the good stuffs from the western media. Too bad it was too late to win the fans back.

IMO, he's the one responsible for the flopped launch, him and Tom Lee should go away.

[Providence 777]

Originally posted by Monterossa:

Even if Shimbori himself likes fan services, he didn't try to protect the core values of the franchises. All the "toning down" talks and interviews he's been doing for almost a year caused a lot of damages to the franchise and DOA6 crashed and burned because of that.

All correct.

Originally posted by Monterossa:

He did tone it down, no matter how you want to believe it. He hided sexiness behind the default outfits and that discouraged people from buying the game, especially the casuals who only seen unimpressive outfits from showcase screenshots and trailers.

The sexy costumes are still in the game though.

They're not completely erased like how MK11 did.

And even then, like I said, the sexy costumes are "default" according naming conventions in the game's archives. It's obvious they never intended to hide the classic sexy costumes, so this was last minute.

Originally posted by Monterossa:

One last thing, I don't believe that the higher ups in Koei Tecmo forced him to do any of this.

From what I've read, KT board members didn't like the direction Shimbori was taking DOA6 to, and they warned him that the fans will leave the franchise behind. That's why he changed his attitudes a little when the game was about to release, saying that he's been lying for months to hide the good stuffs from the western media. Too bad it was too late to win the fans back.

You're misinformed, OAG is a good site, but they're woefully uninformed about who wanted to do what with the game.

Shimbori was the one who was dictating to Koei that he had to show off the fanservice to keep customers, that fact was misreported by OAG who turned it the other way around.

Originally posted by Monterossa:

IMO, he's the one responsible for the flopped launch, him and Tom Lee should go away.

He is responsible for the flopped launch, but that's because he didn't handle communication and messaging correctly.

[Monterossa]

Originally posted by Providence 777:

He is responsible for the flopped launch, but that's because he didn't handle communication and messaging correctly.

Yeah, he messed up the marketing of this game. If he doesn't know anything about marketing, he should've left it to people who actually know.... like... the marketing team, ffs.

And by showing off those default outfits on the showcases, it's like a marketing suicide. When you want to promote your upcoming new model of a car you don't show off its worst looking photos, right? Shimbori doesn't even know marketing 101.

This is on him. He's responsible for that and it was correct to blame him, so I don't understand why you're trying to cover his azz.

[Providence 777]

Originally posted by Monterossa:

Yeah, he messed up the marketing of this game. If he doesn't know anything about marketing, he should've left it to people who actually know.... like... the marketing team, ffs.

And by showing off those default outfits on the showcases, it's like a marketing suicide. When you want to promote your upcoming new model of a car you don't show off its worst looking photos, right? Shimbori doesn't even know marketing 101.

This is on him. He's responsible for that and it was correct to blame him, so I don't understand why you're trying to cover his azz.

We already agreed that he's responsible for the game failing, aren't you paying attention? We agreed on that already.

I'm just clarifying what actually happened, because calling him an SJW makes zero sense considering all the effort he went through to ensure fanservice would be maintained.

[Cypher]

Sooo, what conclusion am I expected to draw from this? That DOA is inevitably going to part ways with its past by the next game? If there is a next game? And how are we as 'fans' supposed to react? Do we call for Tommy Lee to get sacked because he's not a fan of the God Emperor Trump? Or do we buy poorly developed budget titles from China(looking at you, Fight Angel) because they'll still promote the tiddy?

Because I can guarantee I am going to do none of those things.

[Providence 777]

Originally posted by AGSIndustries:

Sooo, what conclusion am I expected to draw from this? That DOA is inevitably going to part ways with its past by the next game? If there is a next game? And how are we as 'fans' supposed to react? Do we call for Tommy Lee to get sacked because he's not a fan of the God Emperor Trump? Or do we buy poorly developed budget titles from China(looking at you, Fight Angel) because they'll still promote the tiddy?

Because I can guarantee I am going to do none of those things.

We have to see who is appointed to take his place as director.

The future DLC for DOA6 will show us what side they're on (not season pass 1, I mean the next seasons).

[크리]

Originally posted by Providence 777:

Without him, we have no guarantee that we'll ever see fanservice in this series ever again.

if it's means getting finished product that not doomed to be dead on arrival, i'm ok with this.
with doa6 "success" tho, we arent getting next game until 2022 and on next get in best case, if ever.

[Providence 777]

Originally posted by 크리:

Originally posted by Providence 777:

Without him, we have no guarantee that we'll ever see fanservice in this series ever again.

if it's means getting finished product that not doomed to be dead on arrival, i'm ok with this.

Those two things have nothing to do with each other.

[Monterossa]

Originally posted by Providence 777:

Without him, we have no guarantee that we'll ever see fanservice in this series ever again.

Who knows.... it might get worse, or better, depends on who's the new leader.

If it's someone like Takaki (Senran Kagura) or Yokō Tarō (Nier Automata) who don't care about western media criticisms and only make games they want, and the fans want, it'll be better than someone like Shimbori who didn't have the balls to stand up and fight the western oppression.