The only problem with Talos2 is the performance - Foliage quality setting needed

[fecske]

Devs, I understand that Unreal Engine 5 is the next gen engine and needs better hardware, but the still popular GTX1060 struggling to run it. I suggest to have more options to turn off/scale down. The heavy foliage scenes is very demanding, I suggest to have a foliage downscaler option.

[fletcher1]

(Why do you make 2 threads with your topic? Please delete one of them)

A GTX1060 belongs the lowest supported video-cards, so you will have to adjust all settings to lowest. Screen resolution max. 1920x1080 or lower. Did you try that?

But YES, performance is a problem in TTP2, even me with a RTX 3090 cannot max out everything and i cannot play on native 4K (just upsampled). Half the time i get 60FPS, but in complex areas it drops down to 45FPS.

[puddingtopf]

I agree that the foliage should have its own graphics setting, but a 1060 is hardly a good standard to judge the game's performance by.

[🅵🆁🅴🅳🅴🆁🅸🅺]

The game struggles on my RTX2060 as well, especially in areas with foliage. I have to run it on the balanced upscaling preset to get 50–60 fps, with the rest set to high, except Ray Tracing that is set to low. And just because Unreal Engine 5 is the "future", it still looks and plays worse than the previous game. A bad choice on their part. They should have kept the original engine and waited until features like Ray Tracing become mainstream with computers on the market. Why this hysteria to make games look better by compromising the gameplay?

[Albie There]

I get dropouts on the external parts with heavy foliage, they have to fix that.

I have a RTX 3060 TI and I Can play at 1440p with everything ultra, I just leave the effects/post processing at low or medium, it's just bloom, blur and other crap that just make the image worse.

I get 60fps when there is not a lot of foliage around, inside buildings. etc..

[fecske]

I am running 1920x1080 all settings low and TAA performance. Yes the GTX1060 is just above the minimum recomended (GTX 970). I hope they add foliage and extra options to scale down.

[Mikeš]

RTX 3080 - 1440p, DLSS on Balanced, settings mostly on High, only textures on Ultra and getting around 80-90fps in high foliage areas, but on 165Hz monitor is shuttering, so I need to lower fps cap to like 75-80 and play on controller to have smooth experience while having a nice looking game overall

[Tiasmoon]

Originally posted by fecske:

the still popular GTX1060 struggling to run it.

You cant keep consider a gpu the most popular gpu forever. At this point in time its a pretty old card.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

Originally posted by fecske:

I am running 1920x1080 all settings low and TAA performance. Yes the GTX1060 is just above the minimum recomended (GTX 970). I hope they add foliage and extra options to scale down.

FSR should give better performance, but I dont know if the visuals will be.. acceptable.

[joridiculous]

Its a GPU from 2016. Imagine thinking it will run a 2023 game without issues (should have got a 1080ti instead).
Also the minimum Recommended is a RTX 3070.
use your thinking organ a bit

[fecske]

Originally posted by joridiculous:

Its a GPU from 2016. Imagine thinking it will run a 2023 game without issues (should have got a 1080ti instead).
Also the minimum Recommended is a RTX 3070.
use your thinking organ a bit

It is a puzzle game and not AAA game, most of puzzle gamers (casual gamers) have "average" PC on Steam and the average on Steam is between 1060 and 3060. Also they advertised the game with minimum GTX970. "Use your thinking organ a bit."

[puddingtopf]

Originally posted by 🅵🆁🅴🅳🅴🆁🅸🅺:

The game struggles on my RTX2060 as well, especially in areas with foliage.

That card is also not exactly high-end. I have a 2070 Super with similar performance issues, but I'm not surprised because I actually have realistic expectations.

Originally posted by 🅵🆁🅴🅳🅴🆁🅸🅺:

And just because Unreal Engine 5 is the "future", it still looks and plays worse than the previous game.

Objectively bad opinion.

Originally posted by 🅵🆁🅴🅳🅴🆁🅸🅺:

A bad choice on their part. They should have kept the original engine and waited until features like Ray Tracing become mainstream with computers on the market. Why this hysteria to make games look better by compromising the gameplay?

No, it was a good choice and their ONLY choice because they couldn't maintain their own engine anymore. How does the new engine compromise the gameplay? Lower your settings if the frame rate bothers you so much.
You said you've set ray tracing to Low, but that is literally not even possible, so you clearly don't understand what you're talking about. Global illumination and reflections both use ray tracing on High and Ultra, but no ray tracing at all on Low and Medium. Try those settings and test the performance differences.

[puddingtopf]

Originally posted by fecske:

Also they advertised the game with minimum GTX970. "Use your thinking organ a bit."

Yes, MINIMUM. What kind of performance did you expect?

[Albie There]

@puddingtopf

Why they could not maintain their original engine? I think it still looks fantastic. I was replaying TP 1 before this, and to me it holds up to this day.... The environment feels so real.

A few tweaks on it would bring it to current gen.

[dosse91]

You're playing with a midrange GPU from 7 years ago, what exactly did you expect?

If there's anything to complain about in this game is the atrocious AA, as soon as you move the camera everything turns into a smear, it's like watching a compressed video and it's physically starting to hurt my eyes after 2 days.

[puddingtopf]

Originally posted by Robertt Crown:

Why they could not maintain their original engine?

Time, money, skills. They've explained it multiple times in the Talos 2 discussions.

Originally posted by Robertt Crown:

I think it still looks fantastic. I was replaying TP 1 before this, and to me it holds up to this day.... The environment feels so real.

A few tweaks on it would bring it to current gen.

It still looks fine, but it doesn't meet current standards. Also, they DID "tweak" the engine for their Serious Sam games, and it didn't end well. Talos is not their only franchise, you know.

[Kleerex]

My condolences if you're stuck with GTX 1060, but it's unrealistic to expect a card that was on the lower end even back in 2016 to perform reasonably well in modern games. No amount of optimization is going to help, sorry.