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Picalo has that face laser beam attack that can kill pretty much anybody.
Krillin's Destructo Disk can slice limbs off.
Less that's said about Cell's tail the better
Buu's antenna turns people into nommable cookies....
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And yet Goku's Spirit Bomb attack, which seems to always be a big deal and takes several episodes to charge up, never seems to do ANY damage.
Apparently, the strongest characters in the story of Naruto were only on par with Nappa.
Narutards will hotly dispute that claim, but they have to keep in mind that Roshi and Piccolo were both capable of blowing up the moon in a single shot, with a power level of less than 700. Nappa's power level, at the time of his debut was around 5,000.
Just because Naruto managed to tank a hit powerful enough to slice the moon in half does NOT mean he can throw down with Goku, Vegeta, or even Krillin for that matter. They are simply too far beyond their capabilities in the power scaling dynamic.
5k and if he joined forces with piccolo, krillin, and gohan then it "might" spell trouble for nappa.
also not saying vegeta isnt cold hearted back then but nappa was fighting goku on less then
par but reasonally well which then the scouter showed goku as over 9000. and without
kaioken goku wouldnt be able to save krillin and gohan from nappa again attesting to that
they werent that far off in spd though yes nappa had a head start.
giving it a wide range probably between 7000-8800 was nappa power lv.
the rest of what you said though sounds about right.
Power level is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ meaningless, it's just a big number they pull out of their butt hole.
Nah, Nappa's power was 5,000, Goku's was 8,000 and Vegeta's was somewhere in the 24,000 range. That's why Goku had to go Kaioken X3 in order to fight him, and bump it up to x4 in order to win their beam struggle.
And remember, Nappa and Vegeta didn't know how to suppress their power levels at that point in the story, which means they weren't hiding their true power. Unlike the heroes at the time.
After a year of training, the rest of the Z Fighters had power levels ranging from the high hundreds, to just under 2,000 each. Meaning that Nappa was roughly 5 times stronger than any of them individually. That's why he was able to defeat them so easily, because Dragon Ball characters haven't caught on to the idea of GANGING UP on the super strong opponent!
Actually, no, the creator and the fanbase like to claim that Power Levels are meaningless. But the actual lore of the show makes it pretty clear that Power Levels are still highly relevant throughout the galaxy.
First of all, despite the fact that the Frieza saga ended decades ago, the story heavily implies that being able to conceal your power level is a rare and difficult technique. Even folks like Hit and Toppo, two of the strongest characters from their respective universes, were surprised and confused by U7's fighters being able to increase their power levels, or transform into stronger stages.
The Frieza Force continues to use scouters long after the point where even Frieza himself realizes how unreliable they are.
Hell, even the Supreme Kai, the overseer of the ENTIRE UNIVERSE, was constantly amazed by the power of the Saiyans, during the Buu Saga!
Simply put, the creator likes to claim one thing is true, but constantly shows us the opposite to be the case. Power levels are not bull crap, it's just that most of the characters who remain present throughout the series have learned how to suppress and regulate their power.
But as for the rest of the universe as a whole, such a technique is not commonly known.
back. there was a couple times where he even acted scared just to fool them that they could
actually hurt him. they could continuous feel he was strong but he wasnt actually hitting with
his full strength. same as saying you just swing a light jab vs hitting with all the strength you
have. that has nothing to do with what power lv you have. nappa was trying not to finish them
too quickly for his own enjoyment. as well as til the end of that fight was trying not to kill piccolo.
also vegeta did know how to control his power. there are 2 types of power ups and i think your
missing that. one is the type of control where you gage how much of your power your using.
the other the one your talking about is where they focus their energy into a single spot increasing
it beyond what they normally could reach. (this isnt limited to just blasts either)
for example frieza could control whether he was using 1% of his full power or all of it. thats
not the same as focusing his energy into a point. same about holding back vs concealing
your energy. one you still at full strength you just dont use it in a way to break everything
around you. the other you make it so you arent emiting it and pressuring it down at the cost
of not being able to use it fully.
if vegeta couldnt control his energy and hold back then goku (when vegeta was a great ape)
would have died from being squashed by vegeta's hands. vegeta used just enough strength
to break goku bones but not kill him on purpose again toying with him.
what exact power up granted goku could be 8000 or 9001 depending on the version.
my point is vegeta read goku power when he was on the nimbus coming as 5000 (unless
that also was english dub only) then why would vegeta say to nappa finish those quickly
only if goku + krillin, gohan, and piccolo could be trouble. not that goku was trouble for
nappa alone.
also vegeta could power up cause piccolo couldnt sence vegeta was stronger then nappa
but said based off how the big guy taking orders, the smaller one must be even stronger then
him. again english dub so if your going to argue about that ill just stop.
ive watched alot more animes in japanese with subs but dbz i grew up with dubbed so i
prefer it that way. though the recent dvds of super i have watched both sub and dub since
thats possible now a days.
Vegeta explicitly tells Cui that he "learned" how to hide his power while fighting on earth. Meaning he didn't know how to do it before.
And since the only person he actually fought on earth was Goku, while Krillin and Gohan just jumped in at the last moment, you can see why that might be a little confusing?
And anyways, that wasn't the point of my argument. The point was, blowing up the moon (not cutting it, actually reducing it to space debris) doesn't even require 500 PL in order to accomplish. And Nappa was many times stronger than that level of achievement. So it's a very safe bet that the most powerful characters in Naruto would pale in comparison to Dragon Ball characters when it comes to any level of destructive potential.
Even Genjutsu would be a hard sell, as they've demonstrated the ability to shrug off mind control abilities in the past.
during the sayian saga.
also i agree dbz chars are the strongest. i always wished there was an anime that could 1up
dbz in power but none have so far that ive seen.
Gurren Lagann might come close. They pilot mechs that are so big they can literally stomp a galaxy out of existence. :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEI-NCTsiPE