Sekiro™: Shadows Die Twice

Sekiro™: Shadows Die Twice

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Sorcerer117 Mar 6, 2024 @ 10:46am
Sekiro or Ghost of Tsushima are closer to Tenchu series?
I loved Tenchu 2 Birth of the stealth assassin, i also played the ones on PS2. And i know for a fact that Aragami looks alot with Tenchu but i think the aesthetic of the game isnt Tenchu like.

So, between Sekiro and GoT, wich one is closer to Tenchu 2 or Tenchu WoH?
Originally posted by VisciousFishes:
This. When the devs started making this it was meant to be a Tenchu game but as the story and mechanics developed, they made Sekiro into it's own thing. It's more spiritual successor to Tenchu than it is actually Tenchu. Same company owns the i.p. to Tenchu. It's still swords, shuriken and stealth, nonetheless.
Samurai are the enemy.

As for G.O.T. - I have been waiting for it to come to steam but what I do know is you're a Samurai not a ninja. Or a shinobi. Similar period of history I believe. Age of myths. But aside from that, can't help you.

Sekiro is awesome, by the way, and you should play it if you liked Tenchu. There's a deflect (parry) mechanic that's pretty fun to deal with. It's tough, has a pretty steep learning curve and it will punish you if you make mistakes. Hesitate and die.
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VisciousFishes Mar 6, 2024 @ 7:38pm 
This. When the devs started making this it was meant to be a Tenchu game but as the story and mechanics developed, they made Sekiro into it's own thing. It's more spiritual successor to Tenchu than it is actually Tenchu. Same company owns the i.p. to Tenchu. It's still swords, shuriken and stealth, nonetheless.
Samurai are the enemy.

As for G.O.T. - I have been waiting for it to come to steam but what I do know is you're a Samurai not a ninja. Or a shinobi. Similar period of history I believe. Age of myths. But aside from that, can't help you.

Sekiro is awesome, by the way, and you should play it if you liked Tenchu. There's a deflect (parry) mechanic that's pretty fun to deal with. It's tough, has a pretty steep learning curve and it will punish you if you make mistakes. Hesitate and die.
Sorcerer117 Mar 7, 2024 @ 9:17am 
Thank you!
Thats good to know, i probably gona get this them later Sekiro :)
Stoon Finger Mar 7, 2024 @ 10:09am 
Sekiro and Ghosts of Tsushima are my top two favorite games of all time (Sekiro, then GoT) I heartily recommend you get and play them both... although they aren't super similar, and Viscious Fishes is right, in Sekiro you are a Shinobi and in GoT you are a samurai, the plot reflects entirely around this in GoT... the idea that the samurai had to sacrifice their honor and traditions in order to become Shinobi to face an enemy that was exploiting their honorable ways and using them against them... they are both incredible games, GoT is the most cinematic game i've ever played in my life and brought me to tears many many times, but Sekiro just has the best game play of any game that has ever existed on top of being a narrative masterpiece... you can't go wrong with either of these games, get both. :)
Kneppy18 Mar 7, 2024 @ 10:22am 
What VisciousFishes said is not entirely accurate about GoT. I will preface by saying that I have not yet played Sekiro so I will not be speaking on that.

There are quite a few stealth and one-hit kills once you build your character up a bit. You can play your character more like a ninja or more like a samurai and it does not affect the story one way or the other.

Also, VisciousFishes was wrong about the time period of GoT. The multiplayer is indeed involved in Japanese mythology, but the core single player game is not. GoT is actually (VERY loosely) based on a true even that happened in Japan. It's about the Mongol invasion of Japan and occupation of the very real island of Tsushima. None of the characters are real nor are the actual events, but it is something akin to historical fiction.

Some VERY LIGHT SPOILERS: It is true that the main character in GoT is a samurai, but he acts more like shinobi than a Samurai the further you go along in the story (and without spoilers, it is noticed that he isn't the average samurai).
VisciousFishes Mar 7, 2024 @ 10:37am 
Originally posted by Kneppy18:
What VisciousFishes said is not entirely accurate about GoT. I will preface by saying that I have not yet played Sekiro so I will not be speaking on that.

There are quite a few stealth and one-hit kills once you build your character up a bit. You can play your character more like a ninja or more like a samurai and it does not affect the story one way or the other.

Also, VisciousFishes was wrong about the time period of GoT. The multiplayer is indeed involved in Japanese mythology, but the core single player game is not. GoT is actually (VERY loosely) based on a true even that happened in Japan. It's about the Mongol invasion of Japan and occupation of the very real island of Tsushima. None of the characters are real nor are the actual events, but it is something akin to historical fiction.

Some VERY LIGHT SPOILERS: It is true that the main character in GoT is a samurai, but he acts more like shinobi than a Samurai the further you go along in the story (and without spoilers, it is noticed that he isn't the average samurai).

I would have hoped that my statement "I've been waiting for it to come to steam" would indicate that I hadn't played G.O.T. Furthermore my statement "similar period of history I believe" should also indicate that I haven't played the game. Of course any speculation on my part may not be wholly accurate as I have taken these impressions from the trailers.

Whereas I have played Sekiro to completion twice, achieved 2 endings and I am currently working on my third.
Apoloyn Mar 7, 2024 @ 1:10pm 
I can already see what future debates will look like on these Steam Forums:

"Which game is better, Sekiro or Tsushima?"
Don Lobo Mar 7, 2024 @ 2:12pm 
Originally posted by VisciousFishes:
This. When the devs started making this it was meant to be a Tenchu game but as the story and mechanics developed, they made Sekiro into it's own thing.

This is false, and has been actively transmitted as wrong information by journalists who are too lazy to translate Japanese right, or just stole the info from someone that already had it wrong and continued to inform people wrongly about it.

By the lead developer's own words, on exclusive pre-launch coverage interview with Game Informer, Tenchu was only ever a reference point. The game was never going to be a Tenchu, they simply thought to look back at the IPs they own that were set in Japan and worked from there.
Kneppy18 Mar 7, 2024 @ 4:28pm 
Originally posted by VisciousFishes:
Originally posted by Kneppy18:
What VisciousFishes said is not entirely accurate about GoT. I will preface by saying that I have not yet played Sekiro so I will not be speaking on that.

There are quite a few stealth and one-hit kills once you build your character up a bit. You can play your character more like a ninja or more like a samurai and it does not affect the story one way or the other.

Also, VisciousFishes was wrong about the time period of GoT. The multiplayer is indeed involved in Japanese mythology, but the core single player game is not. GoT is actually (VERY loosely) based on a true even that happened in Japan. It's about the Mongol invasion of Japan and occupation of the very real island of Tsushima. None of the characters are real nor are the actual events, but it is something akin to historical fiction.

Some VERY LIGHT SPOILERS: It is true that the main character in GoT is a samurai, but he acts more like shinobi than a Samurai the further you go along in the story (and without spoilers, it is noticed that he isn't the average samurai).

I would have hoped that my statement "I've been waiting for it to come to steam" would indicate that I hadn't played G.O.T. Furthermore my statement "similar period of history I believe" should also indicate that I haven't played the game. Of course any speculation on my part may not be wholly accurate as I have taken these impressions from the trailers.

Whereas I have played Sekiro to completion twice, achieved 2 endings and I am currently working on my third.

I’m really sorry. I didn’t intend any offense. I know you didn’t play the game yet. I was just trying to clear up some of the misconceptions you had. I truly didn’t mean anything by it.
Laughing Clown Mar 7, 2024 @ 5:24pm 
If you are a Tenchu fan, I would highly recommend the Aragami games. However, Aragami 2 is just like Tenchu for the most part. Ninja, stealth kills, focuses on remaining undetected, hiding in shadows, third person, rankings at the end of each mission based on how well you remained undetected. Checkout a gameplay video of Aragami 2.

Also, when you mentioned Aragami, I don't know if you meant both games or just the first one.

Edit:

I would highly recommend Sekiro as an awesome game in it's own right. It's no Tenchu, nothing like it at all. But a great game and Fromsoft's best work in my opinion.
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VisciousFishes Mar 7, 2024 @ 5:39pm 
Originally posted by Kneppy18:
I’m really sorry. I didn’t intend any offense. I know you didn’t play the game yet. I was just trying to clear up some of the misconceptions you had. I truly didn’t mean anything by it.

All good. No offence taken. I was just clarifying why my misconceptions were the way they were. Trailers can be, by their very nature, misleading. And text doesn't convey tone especially well, either. I apologise if I seemed abrasive.

I will be getting G.O.T. though. I am about to finish this game again for the third time. Then it's once more through. Yes. Sekiro is that good.
VisciousFishes Mar 7, 2024 @ 5:41pm 
Originally posted by Don Lobo:
This is false, and has been actively transmitted as wrong information by journalists who are too lazy to translate Japanese right, or just stole the info from someone that already had it wrong and continued to inform people wrongly about it.

By the lead developer's own words, on exclusive pre-launch coverage interview with Game Informer, Tenchu was only ever a reference point. The game was never going to be a Tenchu, they simply thought to look back at the IPs they own that were set in Japan and worked from there.

Apologies. I read it on an article and a wiki, thought I had two good sources. I was only repeating what I understood to be true.
Kneppy18 Mar 7, 2024 @ 7:14pm 
Originally posted by VisciousFishes:
Originally posted by Kneppy18:
I’m really sorry. I didn’t intend any offense. I know you didn’t play the game yet. I was just trying to clear up some of the misconceptions you had. I truly didn’t mean anything by it.

All good. No offence taken. I was just clarifying why my misconceptions were the way they were. Trailers can be, by their very nature, misleading. And text doesn't convey tone especially well, either. I apologise if I seemed abrasive.

I will be getting G.O.T. though. I am about to finish this game again for the third time. Then it's once more through. Yes. Sekiro is that good.

I highly recommend it. Probably my favorite PlayStation exclusive. So glad it’s coming to PC
Sokurah Mar 8, 2024 @ 7:55am 
Cant say anything about tenchu.

But sekiro shines on 1vs1 combat, while GoT is more about crowd fights.

Exploring and story/ missions are different.

GoT is open World with an AC type structure i would say.

Sekiro is not really open world and more liniar.

Both great game imo. Cant really compare them.

If i need to make a call i would say sekiro is better.
Stoon Finger Mar 8, 2024 @ 9:26am 
Originally posted by Sokurah:
Cant say anything about tenchu.

But sekiro shines on 1vs1 combat, while GoT is more about crowd fights.

Exploring and story/ missions are different.

GoT is open World with an AC type structure i would say.

Sekiro is not really open world and more liniar.

Both great game imo. Cant really compare them.

If i need to make a call i would say sekiro is better.


Sekiro is 100% open world... You can take so many different paths through the game and explore areas that you are more comfortable with if you hit a wall... not sure why you would say its not? It's definitely not AS open as GoT but I don't think you should say its not open world and that its linear, that is just not true... you fight the bosses in the order you want.
Sokurah Mar 8, 2024 @ 9:39am 
Well it has the same structure as the dark souls games.

It's different areas merged together. You can go from area to area but actually not always.

I know what you mean but i would not concider this open world. That would usually be one or multiple big map like far cry, assassins creed, horizon zero dawn or elden ring.

Open world usually gives you wide movement into all directions. Areas in sekiro and dark soul can be pretty limited.

I would more concider this a level type map where the maps are connected.
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