Most frustrating game i ever played

[Thorba]

I really loved dark souls3 and many other soulslikes and thought this would be anywhere close to them but it seems i really wasted 60euros here.

I was made it to the boss on top of the castle and after many many tries i was beating him only to see that there is even a third phase comming out of nowhere with complete new mechanics (and ofc i got killed before i even figured out what to do).

It seems the premise of this game was to make it as frustrating and hard as it get (maybe to reach a high playtime) but i really cant waste days for just one boss only to know that this goes on after him.

I really hope that elden ring will be more fair but i will be careful with fromsoftware games in the future. Only want to warn players who think they get another good souls game here.

[Achi88]

Messaggio originale di Sokurah:

Random implies you have the feeling there is RNG involved.

Thats not the case. This is a fact many players can tell you. Genichiro can be mastered 100 %. You can read and predict all his attacks. Thats is a fact no seasoned player will argue about.

Your feeling might feel right for you first time facing him. Nobody will say otherwise but when you fight him more that feeling will change.

My whole point is that his attacks felt more random and harder to anticipate in phase 1 compared to 3. This is still an opinion I hold, and I don't understand why this has become a long discussion.

[Sonnenbank]

Because it is stupid ;)

You can feel 5 is a higher number than 8 ....
its your feelings but its wrong.

This has become a discussion point since you feel a fight that

a.) was allready done vs genichiro earlier in the game
b.) has very few attacks at all
c.) is 0% random
d.) is considerd one of the easiest fights in the game

is harder than a fight that

a.) is completely knew attack patterns
b) has a ton of different attacks and timings
d.) is considerd the 2nd hardest fight in the game after Father Owl.

I mean yeah your feelings is your feelings but its still ridiculous
thats why there was a discussion
because what you feel is just so far of reality that its a joke

[Achi88]

Don't invalidate my feelings

[craneology]

get gud

[Vomit]

Keep trying bro you'll get there eventually.

I had a lot of trouble with him and now I can beat him easily.

If you have trouble with him you are going to have massive problems with the last boss which is similar in the sense that it tests all the mechanics you have learned throughout the game on he's much more punishing and hard to read.

Trust me though, it's worth the effort. I would say that Sekiro has the BEST boss design of any game I've ever played. I felt like I not only got better at Sekiro because of the bosses but I also became a better gamer in general.

Basically, beating the last boss evolved my primitive monkey brain and made my pee pee grow about 6".

[YumYumTastyTV]

the most infuriating thing is that devs patch out cheese or stealth tactics. it's deliberately made to be hard because with out the difficulty the game would be a ridiculously shallow borefest. I enjoy Nioh way more.

[Sokurah]

Messaggio originale di YumYumTastyTv:

the most infuriating thing is that devs patch out cheese or stealth tactics. it's deliberately made to be hard because with out the difficulty the game would be a ridiculously shallow borefest. I enjoy Nioh way more.

Its deliberatly made to understand the combat mechanis and enjoy learning them and overcome abstacles and stop making mistakes, getting a better player if you will.

But some ppl cant seem to understand that.

I enjoyed Nioh and Nioh 2 as well but tbh it gets way more repetative and boring towards the end of the game as Sekiro imo.

But different ppl like different games / mechanics. Some ppl. play Nioh for 1000 hours.
Unimaginable for me tbh.

[maul]

DS2 is great don't listen to these people.

[Kou]

if it takes more than like 2 hours to beat a boss, you're just doing something wrong

[Sokurah]

Messaggio originale di Kougeru:

if it takes more than like 2 hours to beat a boss, you're just doing something wrong

Not in general. Some ppl need longer than others. It doesnt matter if if take 2 or 5 hours.
Genichiro took me 3 i guess, Isshin 5 or so (first run)

But Sekiro was pretty much mir first combat, skill, git gud game.

What counts is that you feel you get better every try and that you dont give up.

[Trezoitao38]

You can do a lot before fight Genichiro. I recomend you look for more prayer breads.

I recently did Corrupted Monk as second boss of the game. This show to you how far you can get on the game before really need to fight Genichiro. He will be very easy if you do this.

[𝕊𝕠𝕡𝕙𝕚𝕒]

Messaggio originale di YumYumTastyTv:

the most infuriating thing is that devs patch out cheese or stealth tactics. it's deliberately made to be hard because with out the difficulty the game would be a ridiculously shallow borefest. I enjoy Nioh way more.

Sounds like someone needs to git gud lmao

[Bashir_mazaheri]

One thing this game tries to teach you early on is that dodging and blindly attacking wont work. This is something i learned way too late. When i reached genichiro i got my ass handed to me the first hour and then i just started parrying/blocking and playing aggressively. It took me another hour to get the parrying down and know when he will do an attack i can mikiri counter and what not and after that bosses become easier, not easy but easier. The lightning thing was easy to learn. But all in all the game was made to be difficult and in that it reaches its goal. Other games dont put this much emphasis on its combat gameplay as sekiro does and i love it for it.

[La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo]

Messaggio originale di zarnerkand:

Then, woke up today and defeated first try.

This happened to me so many times in this game, including when I finally defeated Isshin. Somehow a good night's sleep is all you need to let the muscle memory etch into your brain (probably the least scientifically accurate neurological statement ever, but you get what I mean). I like how the skills you develop through the game mean you, the player, "level up", rather than just your character. You feel incredibly powerful once you go back to the early game and effortlessly beat bosses you struggled with when you first fought them.

[Sabaithal]

Messaggio originale di maul:

DS2 is great don't listen to these people.

I mean, it does take a little getting used to, mostly just due to how sluggish the movement feels at first.

But yeah, probably my favorite out of the series.