What did people think of the final boss? Too hard, too easy, or just perfect?

[Bóbr D. Kurwa]

For me, just perfect. Challenging enough but didn't take me more than 20 tries (though i didn't keep count). Unlike the Demon of Hatred which took me 44.

[隻狼]

It is fine i think.
Difficulty is average, but has 4 phases which mixes it a bit up and keeps it intresting.

[ahaha.wav]

Found final boss to be the hardest fight in the game for sure, but definitely not to the point where it was unfair. Felt like a perfect test of everything you'd learned up to that point, was super satisfying to beat.

[Lorenzo Von Matterhorn]

I kept dying for 8 hours, and I was thinking they overdid it. Then I beat him, and felt that it was done just right...can't wait to fight him again, so amazing.

[Teddy]

Brutal, but feels good to have finally done it.

[Krono]

I loved it, it felt like the Genichiro fight on steroids

[Zulfurlubak]

Just about right, I think. It takes some time to beat him, but it feels good.
And I think it's much better than in previous FromSoftware games I've played (BB and DS3) because it was disappointing to get to the games final boss only to beat him on your 1st or 2nd try.

[Krono]

Originally posted by Zulfurlubak:

Just about right, I think. It takes some time to beat him, but it feels good.
And I think it's much better than in previous FromSoftware games I've played (BB and DS3) because it was disappointing to get to the games final boss only to beat him on your 1st or 2nd try.

Depends on which final boss for BB, Gherman is a great fight. Mergo's Wetnurse and Moon Presence are both pretty easy at that point though

[Bóbr D. Kurwa]

I agree with ya'll, it was a great fight. And since the humanoid enemies are my favourites in the game it never became boring either.

[Zulfurlubak]

Originally posted by Krono:

Depends on which final boss for BB, Gherman is a great fight. Mergo's Wetnurse and Moon Presence are both pretty easy at that point though

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Totally agree, Gherman is a good fight and he've made me die a couple of times (well, I didn't use Beasts Roar) but Wet Nurse and Moon Presence both felt too easy. And despite fact that I liked BB a great deal, after I beat it for the first time I was like: "Ehh, what? And that's it? Where are few hours of wiping on end game boss?". Imho, reasonably difficult final boss is important so you could feel some satisfaction and enjoyment after your beat him before watching cutscenes and final credits.

[InstableMonster]

It's ok, would have liked if they removed the genichiro phase when you beat it. It's easy and just time consuming before getting in the main fight, I thought it changed the rythm too much but overall its a small complaint.

[Tr0w]

Originally posted by 隻狼:

It is fine i think.
Difficulty is average, but has 4 phases which mixes it a bit up and keeps it intresting.

>Difficulty is average
How so? Compare it to the majority of non indie games from the past 10 years and outside of stuff like Devil May Cry on the hardest settings, Souls, or Nioh, it's way more than average difficulty.

[Bóbr D. Kurwa]

Think he was just talking about the final boss itself^

[Nanashi]

I felt like it was too easy compared to some other bosses. Personally Demon of Hatred and Guardian Ape took me way longer to beat than him.

It's kinda weird though in NG+.

I'm pretty stuck at the Sword Saint right now. Not necessarily because of Isshin though. I beat Genichiro first try in both fights in NG+ but he ♥♥♥♥♥ me up badly in the Sword Saint fight. Like... I get through first phase of Isshin perfectly (no damage in pretty much all runs) but for every time I get into the spear phase I fail like 5+ times at Genichiro afterwards. So every time I get back into that phase I have lost almost all feeling for it again.

I'm aiming to get through NG+ without activating any of the memories of the second playthrough though. Maybe that's the problem for me right now. No idea how much 12 more attack would shorten these fights.

[Mu'Ammar of Carthus]

Originally posted by Blue:

I kept dying for 8 hours, and I was thinking they overdid it. Then I beat him, and felt that it was done just right...can't wait to fight him again, so amazing.

It took me one hour, encountering him on NG+ for the first time.
Seemed impossible at first, but then Ultra instinct kicked in.

Magnificent boss fight, probably the best in the game but I haven't had the second owl encounter yet.

[CMDR Shven]

I think he's perfect. He's not hard if you have mastered the mechanics and understand how to properly respond to anything the game can throw at you. He's not fast or hard to read; he just has a huge bag of tricks. The people who think he's brutally difficult probably just slacked off on learning one or more fundamental aspects of the gameplay and cheesed or skipped other bosses in the game that punished them for not knowing how to play.