Really cool game, but i wont be finishing it.

[zeredis]

Call me bad, I really dont give a ♥♥♥♥ tbh. But I spent about a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hour on the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ogre and only died to one/two abilities, the grab being the primary culprit. Mostly because I'd dodge, be completely out of range, and have him change direction ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ entirely and obviously, grab me, and one/twoshot me, I figured there were to be a few difficult/annoying/bs boss fights, but I wont get to see them because i literally cannot progress past this broken sack of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terrified to even poke him because at the chance he would do one of those moves and just know, dodging didnt mean ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on this boss.

[Tiasmoon]

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Not trying to be mean here but the Orge + Fire is probably one of the easiest fights in the game just because you can stop him from grabbing/diving with fire. So you sprint around him until he attempts to attack you, and when he's recovering from the miss you just blast him with fire. He freaks out and screams for like 6 seconds and you can just hit the crap out of him. Then step back and repeat. He won't even grab, and if he attempts to, you should be sprinting in a circle around him so he cannot.

I dont believe I unlocked fire yet? Unless you get the fire that early in the game or from some specific item i may already have or overlooked.

You can find the fire tool in the area unlocked by using the bell.

[zeredis]

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The problem is one of those grabs have insane tracking.

Grabs have zero tracking in this game. If they had tracking they would be impossible to avoid short of doing a 180 turn and sprinting away.

Dont get me wrong, theres definately some moves with absurd tracking in this game..however none of those are grabs. The ogres kick is a move like that. It's pretty funny in a way to see it move 180 mid air.

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You can actually go ♥♥♥♥ yourself. You came here to do nothing but talk ♥♥♥♥. I genuinely wish you experience a game breaking glitch like I have

That's actually not an insult, since what you experienced was neither game breaking nor a glitch..

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trust me man i tried hundreds of forms of cheese, i even tried to see if i could get ihm to ledge himself

And have you considered you know...jumping in between his arms when he tries to grab you?

Was incredibly glitchy and game breaking espoecially when someone jumps foreward and instantly snaps behind you and grabs you, and when you dodge back 5 times only to have him grab you either way.

[Zyrconia]

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If you are having problems with this boss you should definitely quit. I'm not saying that to belittle your skills, just to save you future headaches.

This is a very easy mini-boss and what comes alter is far far worse, both in its sheer difficulty and the bullshitery of grab attacks. I'm talking about you, Guardian Ape, with absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ midair direction change teleporting into grip attack which I manged to avoid only by RNG.

I genuinely can't telly you how to avoid that grab and it took me 35 tries to beat that boss (vs. 3-4 on the chained ogre, without fire), except for do your best and pray...

I quit the game on the next monkey boss :).

I fought this retarded delayed boss for about an hour and was one hit away from killing him. I dodged behind him as he jumped foreward. proceeded to do a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 180 and land on me and instantly kill me. Dont pull that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ "im not belittling your skills" You think you're better because you didnt get an as glitchy and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ encounter. ♥♥♥♥ off and ♥♥♥♥ you. I genuinely enjoy this game and maybe ill purchase it again after theres been a patch. A boss shouldnt be so RNG based with its attacks and have such mega broken hitboxes

One major problem with this community and DS in general is that you can't be critical for any reason without being assaulted by thousands of "you don't like it because you suck" or "git gud" comments. With my comment about belittling I was trying to preemptively say I'm not in that camp and offer you genuine advice: quit now because the game only gets harder and this isn't the last time you will see a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ grab attack.

Or just learn the fight. you are probably trying to dodge the attack when you see the red kanji.

But I see now that you are a bit of an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, so have fun either way!

[zeredis]

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I dont believe I unlocked fire yet? Unless you get the fire that early in the game or from some specific item i may already have or overlooked.

You can find the fire tool in the area unlocked by using the bell.

The bell? I did go through the area but amybe I didnt explore as much. My will of exploration was getting quickly stomped by how busted the boss was.

[DeathRow]

lmao bye, git gud next time

[Tiasmoon]

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Was incredibly glitchy and game breaking espoecially when someone jumps foreward and instantly snaps behind you and grabs you, and when you dodge back 5 times only to have him grab you either way.

That's because your dodging when you should be running or jumping backwards. I understand that whatever other games you are used to had to dodge a lot, but dodge is only really used to re-position in this game, not to I-frame attacks.

[zeredis]

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Was incredibly glitchy and game breaking espoecially when someone jumps foreward and instantly snaps behind you and grabs you, and when you dodge back 5 times only to have him grab you either way.

That's because your dodging when you should be running or jumping backwards. I understand that whatever other games you are used to had to dodge a lot, but dodge is only really used to re-position in this game, not to I-frame attacks.

Hard to run when you only get half a second to really figure out "oh hey hes charging let me dodge!" Only to dodge around him and have him tell you to go ♥♥♥♥ yourself and instantly snap midair and oneshot you.

[zubiecup99]

I got tired of reading the comments, so forgive me if this has already been said, but that long diving grab can be countered with the same double jump move that is used for enemies with spears. The boss went from irritatingly difficult to a joke once I figured that out.

I keep telling people this. If they are really having a hard time with bosses and find themselves getting too frustrated to play, look up guides on YouTube. I really like Tyrannicon's.

[Tiasmoon]

If you went into the game happy and excited, you probably still would be happy and excited.

You cant blame a highly difficulty game if you die. You wont enjoy the game that way.

[Spudbar]

Beaten the game - Ogre is the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ boss/miniboss there is. Gave me the most trouble on my second playthrough. It just spams grab attacks and has 4 variations with slightly different timings just to throw you off (and he'll initiate almost any of them from any distance, so the timing is never consistent), along with botched hit detection.

Ogre is unfun and cheesy. Though there are ways to, much like almost every other encounter, cheese him back. You can lure him, get a stealth blow, and then just play safe with firecrackers which you can obtain from an earlier merchant to make the battle much easier.

Once you get past him the game really starts to pick up. Fights become much more fun and far more well designed than this obnoxious grab spamming oaf, who doesn't even serve to teach you any useful skills for the later sections of the game, aside from maybe sprint-jumping away from grabs (which, unlike with Ogre, will actually work).

Shame if you're quitting here because you're missing out on a lot of good content. The game definitely doesn't get any easier from here, but at least you'll be able to learn from those failures and come to recognize mistakes.

I don't get that feeling facing Ogre without exploiting his weaknesses. And I'm on my 3rd playthrough.

[alanrco]

If you had listened to the conversation before the ogre is released you would know that the ogre is scared of fire. Get the fire tool.

[zeredis]

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If you went into the game happy and excited, you probably still would be happy and excited.

You cant blame a highly difficulty game if you die. You wont enjoy the game that way.

Oh no I went into it knowing it was going to be hard. Therse a difference between being hard and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Theres hard, but satisfying in the end, but then theres just broken enemies that arent broken because they deal high damage, but broken because their move is quite literally broken.

[zeredis]

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Beaten the game - Ogre is the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ boss/miniboss there is. Gave me the most trouble on my second playthrough. It just spams grab attacks and has 4 variations with slightly different timings just to throw you off (and he'll initiate almost any of them from any distance, so the timing is never consistent), along with botched hit detection.

Ogre is unfun and cheesy. Though there are ways to, much like almost every other encounter, cheese him back. You can lure him, get a stealth blow, and then just play safe with firecrackers which you can obtain from an earlier merchant to make the battle much easier.

Once you get past him the game really starts to pick up. Fights become much more fun and far more well designed than this obnoxious grab spamming oaf, who doesn't even serve to teach you any useful skills for the later sections of the game, aside from maybe sprint-jumping away from grabs (which, unlike with Ogre, will actually work).

Shame if you're quitting here because you're missing out on a lot of good content. The game definitely doesn't get any easier from here, but at least you'll be able to learn from those failures and come to recognize mistakes.

I don't get that feeling facing Ogre without exploiting his weaknesses. And I'm on my 3rd playthrough.

Thats why I thought about maybe purchasing the game again in a week or two, dunno though. I want a genuine way to cheese this boss, like hte one guy suggested the fire tool, which I dunno how to get yet but im guessing its in the same region. I agree with you 100% that the game to come is going to be an action packed fun adventure. but this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ this early is genuinely cancer man.

[Zyrconia]

You are an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ based on how you talk to people and respond to comments, it doesn't have anything to to with the boss...

Learn to talk to people....

[Bardiche]

This guy is like DSP