Do special Items respawn?

[CookieEngine]

I just wanted to know if items in dungeons, or hidden location would respawn. I just got a Red Lady's Dagger by completing a puzzle on a dungeon. After 7 days or whatever, will I be able to do it again? And get 2 of those?

[Tymon]

The point is that you did not clarify. You simply said 'in multiplayer'. If you said, 'In multiplayer in my game' that would be much more clear. I do agree however that people earlier did simply assume. While it is certainly true that you implied it was indeed in your game, it was not outright direct with it either. Humans do indeed have a tendency to fill in the gaps with their own guesswork, which is why I personally have learned to not do such a thing since it can often be wrong. Which it clearly was in the case of people accusing you of stealing someone's backpack basically.

[JackBaldy]

Originally posted by Tymon:

The point is that you did not clarify. You simply said 'in multiplayer'. If you said, 'In multiplayer in my game' that would be much more clear. I do agree however that people earlier did simply assume. While it is certainly true that you implied it was indeed in your game, it was not outright direct with it either. Humans do indeed have a tendency to fill in the gaps with their own guesswork, which is why I personally have learned to not do such a thing since it can often be wrong.

It was irrelevant information. How is it relevant information as to whether or not I am the host for Melfino's Backpack to be spawning twice? It's completely irrelevant information. Yes I did not specify a lot of things because they were irrelevant to the point that Melfino's Backpack did indeed spawn twice. Even if you completely disregard my comment regarding multiplayer, I clearly stated that it spawned twice in singleplayer.

So this, to me, is just a complete lack of reading comprehension and people wanting others to fill out irrelevant details because they can't resist the urge to fill in the gaps with useless and meaningless stories.

And even when I clarified, you still managed to think I was the host. This boggles my mind. O.o...

[Tymon]

Oh! After re-reading it (and having a cup of coffee... I guess I should probably wait until I'm more awake before I go commenting on stuff in the future...) Now I get what you mean. I was misreading it as you meaning 'it spawned once in single player, and then another time in multiplayer' which could mean it was simply intended behavior. When what was meant was simply, "I've had it respawn while playing singleplayer, and also had it respawn when I was playing in someone else's game" Sorry, I derped pretty hard there.

[JackBaldy]

Originally posted by Tymon:

Oh! After re-reading it (and having a cup of coffee... I guess I should probably wait until I'm more awake before I go commenting on stuff in the future...) Now I get what you mean. I was misreading it as you meaning 'it spawned once in single player, and then another time in multiplayer' which could mean it was simply intended behavior. When what was meant was simply, "I've had it respawn while playing singleplayer, and also had it respawn when I was playing in someone else's game" Sorry, I derped pretty hard there.

Happens to the best of us. My apologies for coming on too strongly. No hard feelings. Take care.

[Tymon]

Originally posted by JackBaldy:

Happens to the best of us. My apologies for coming on too strongly. No hard feelings. Take care.

No apologies needed at all, after all, I really did just completely misinterpret it due to being all drowsy still. Haha.

[The Legendary ~F~]

/eats popcorn

This is some real good popcorn..

P.s that bastard never returned the backpack!

[Tymon]

Anyway, to give a definitive answer to the question... As I posted before, unique items are not supposed to respawn. Due to bugs however, sometimes they can since the game didn't properly set the 'acquired' flag. But it's not something you can expect, or rely on happening.

[JackBaldy]

Originally posted by Tymon:

Anyway, to give a definitive answer to the question... As I posted before, unique items are not supposed to respawn. Due to bugs however, sometimes they can since the game didn't properly set the 'acquired' flag. But it's not something you can expect, or rely on happening.

So is Melfino's Backpack only supposed to spawn once? I assumed that the developers had limited the spawn rate for it to two so that two players playing in cooperatively could both attain the backpacks. I know that things like the Royal Manticore and Hive Lord (Worldedge Greataxe) don't respawn, but I've seen certain "map" or hand placed items respawn.

Not sure if it's because of a bug or not though. :Shrugs: Honestly, I'm just going to test it right quick... o.o...

[Tymon]

Originally posted by JackBaldy:

So is Melfino's Backpack only supposed to spawn once? I assumed that the developers had limited the spawn rate for it to two so that two players playing in cooperatively could both attain the backpacks. I know that things like the Royal Manticore and Hive Lord (Worldedge Greataxe) don't respawn, but I've seen certain "map" or hand placed items respawn.

Not sure if it's because of a bug or not though. :Shrugs: Honestly, I'm just going to test it right quick... o.o...

And yep. it's supposed to spawn only once. The flag for it I believe is Artifact_Trader_Pack, or something similar to that. Easiest way to check for yourself is to install debug mode and hit f4 to check out the quest flags. type in Artifact or Trade, in the search field under the 'add quest flag' mode and you'll see.
-Edited to add
Just checked myself, the exact quest flag is Artifacts_TraderBag

[JackBaldy]

Originally posted by Tymon:

And yep. it's supposed to spawn only once. The flag for it I believe is Artifact_Trader_Pack, or something similar to that. Easiest way to check for yourself is to install debug mode and hit f4 to check out the quest flags. type in Artifact or Trade, in the search field under the 'add quest flag' mode and you'll see.

Interesting. Did some quick testing and I can confirm that it did not spawn twice this time. I wonder if adding the backpack to your current backpack instead of equipping the backpack makes the flag register properly as opposed to having it bug out.

In any case, the flag bugging out would explain the inconsistent spawn rates for certain artifacts like Melfino's Backpack spawning only twice for me and Zhorn's Backpack spawning three times for me. Not sure what exactly triggers the flag not properly flagging, but I suppose it is informative to know that only one should spawn for any given specific character world.

Thanks for sharing this knowledge with me.

[Tymon]

Originally posted by JackBaldy:

Interesting. Did some quick testing and I can confirm that it did not spawn twice this time. I wonder if adding the backpack to your current backpack instead of equipping the backpack makes the flag register properly as opposed to having it bug out.

In any case, the flag bugging out would explain the inconsistent spawn rates for certain artifacts like Melfino's Backpack spawning only twice for me and Zhorn's Backpack spawning three times for me. Not sure what exactly triggers the flag not properly flagging, but I suppose it is informative to know that only one should spawn for any given specific character world.

Thanks for sharing this knowledge with me.

As the saying goes, "The more you know" heh. But yeah, your proposal on equipping it vs just tossing it into your existing bag definitely makes me curious. Might make a new character and experiment to see just when the quest flag is set (or not set) to indicate to the game that the item was acquired.