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Wolfschadow possède DOOM Eternal

2 avr. 2020 à 11h11

The marauder is a problem in this game.

The marauder is the only enemy in this game I have a problem with and there is 1 reason for it. His shield. This mechanic of temporary invulnerability makes him so extremely frustrating to play against. The shield would not be a problem, if it could be disabled. As this is not possible, it forces a reactionary playstyle from you in the chaos of battle. this inherently doesn't have to be bad, however what makes it bad for the marauder is the inconsistency. You have no refference points to know what he will do next before he does it (Or at least do not get told any of them). When he finally attacks in a way you can counter, I have seen myself hitting him straight with the SSG in the chest and still get a facefull of demon axe, only to get murdered because I had to ackpedal into a wall. The best strategy for the marauder is to stand still and wait and that is no fun at all.

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The marauder is annoying, but not particularly difficult. I think his problem is twofold:

1) As others here have said, the marauder runs against the flow of what DOOM Eternal is pushing you too. Everything in this game flows together into a beautiful gore filled blood-frenzy when you play fast and aggressive, bouncing across the battlefield like a little Yoda of death. A marauder forces you to slow down, stay at a particular range, and combo a guy a few times in a row to take him out.

2) There are three items in the game meant to shred through problem points: The BFG, the Unmaykr, and The Crucible. The Unmaykr is okay but not great. The BFG is blocked 100% by the Marauder's shield and isn't fast enough to parry with. The Crucible unsheathes too slow to be valuable as a post-counter attack.

The BFG and Crucible are meant to be big clearing weapons. The Marauder single-handedly negates both and that seems really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ on the game design side.

So I don't hate fighting the marauder, I just hate that I get all hyped up for the insanity of the flow of this game, only for the marauder to show up and grind the fight to a screeching halt.

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Lssrdragon66 possède DOOM Eternal

2 avr. 2020 à 12h47

Sabaithal a écrit :
Yeah, indirect explosive do damage to marauders, but in my experience not enough damage. It takes way too long to take him down when trying to rely on that.

my fastest time killing them is 30 seconds combination of your grenade launcher and your combat shotgun sticky grenade mod.

#31

Sabaithal

2 avr. 2020 à 12h51

lssrdragon66 a écrit :
Sabaithal a écrit :
Yeah, indirect explosive do damage to marauders, but in my experience not enough damage. It takes way too long to take him down when trying to rely on that.
my fastest time killing them is 30 seconds combination of your grenade launcher and your combat shotgun sticky grenade mod.

Yeah. That's too slow, even for me. Or at least, I'm trying to keep it under 30 seconds (and not always succeeding mind you).

#32

Doktor Mandrake possède DOOM Eternal

2 avr. 2020 à 12h55

Sad Pug a écrit :
Wolfschadow a écrit :
The shield would not be a problem, if it could be disabled.
You can. Just don't attack him when his eyes do not flash green, then it will never even appear.
Problem solved.

#33

Cardboard

2 avr. 2020 à 13h28

Quit whining about the game is already a thing

#34

space_pilot possède DOOM Eternal

2 avr. 2020 à 13h41

marauder is a f a g g o t and was designed by f a g g o t

Dernière modification de space_pilot; 2 avr. 2020 à 13h42

#35

#CuteFaceJay possède DOOM Eternal

2 avr. 2020 à 13h42

Any console commands to delete him everytime he shows up?

#36

Kain

2 avr. 2020 à 13h43

space.pilot a écrit :
marauder is a f a g g o t and was designed by f a g g o t

gitgud scrub.

#37

Italian Boy possède DOOM Eternal

2 avr. 2020 à 13h54

There 2 way to kill him

1] Eyes go green use Super Shotgun + Balista hit it 3 times and is dead
2] Eyes go green use Super Shotgun + BFG9000 1 hit kill

Hint: Learn to quick switch weapons there also 2 ways binding the weapons to easy switch like Super Shotgun is #3 key and balista is C on my keyboad so When you hit him with the super shotgun switch fast and smash the shoot button

the other easy ways more for controller/console user there a quickswitch button I believe is the Q key the wheelWeapon Use the Super Shotgun press Q the game go in slowmotion switch fast to balista and smash the shoot button or BFG9000 to 1 hit kill

https://you.be/ZwdQFkkAU28?t=1157

#38

Kain

2 avr. 2020 à 13h56

Italian Boy a écrit :
There 2 way to kill him

1] Eyes go green use Super Shotgun + Balista hit it 3 times and is dead
2] Eyes go green use Super Shotgun + BFG9000 1 hit kill

Hint: Learn to quick switch weapons there also 2 ways binding the weapons to easy switch like Super Shotgun is #3 key and balista is C on my keyboad so When you hit him with the super shotgun switch fast and smash the shoot button

the other easy ways more for controller/console user there a quickswitch button I believe is the Q key the wheelWeapon Use the Super Shotgun press Q the game go in slowmotion switch fast to balista and smash the shoot button or BFG9000 to 1 hit kill :super:

https://you.be/ZwdQFkkAU28?t=1157

Many more, grenades, explosive shots, remote rocket detonations you name it.

#39

Jim Lahey

2 avr. 2020 à 14h09

Sad Pug a écrit :
Wolfschadow a écrit :
The shield would not be a problem, if it could be disabled.
You can. Just don't attack him when his eyes do not flash green, then it will never even appear.
Problem solved.

Even better than that. Just go around his shield. Meathook an enemy behind him and use your high mobility to sidestep his shield and get a free shot on him.

Also, Microwave Beam is quite effective against him. Microwave a nearby fodder and the resulting explosion stuns the marauder. Problem solved.

Dernière modification de Jim Lahey; 2 avr. 2020 à 14h10

#40

Wolfschadow possède DOOM Eternal

2 avr. 2020 à 17h33

Crunchips a écrit :
Wolfschadow a écrit :
tried that. He always dodges them
He usually dodges once, then just sits there for a couple of seconds allowing you to falter him. Just fish out that dodge.

Actualy no. He did that over and over again.

#41

Xervous

2 avr. 2020 à 19h28

Not sure how I managed it but I pinged one with the BFG inside a slayer gate and he died promptly after to SSG+ballista. Might have been a prefire into him opening up.

#42

McKnuckles possède DOOM Eternal

2 avr. 2020 à 19h38

The first one to be fought I used nothing but the SSG and just shooting him each time he flashed green (after dying quite a bit figuring out the best way to try and deal with him while an imp pelted me in the back with fireballs). I actually did try using splash damage via rockets on it but they didn't seem to be doing that much to him.

#43