Melee weapons (Survival)

[Moglom]

Are any of you using melee weapons other than very early on?
You get so much ammo realy fast. Even when you're out, double Blaster seems better than Melee

[p30pl3h4t3m3]

spear is op...

[son-goku]

Spear stuns but when you deal with a wave of small enemies, like canoptrix or the other variants, then the power fist is really something. Insanely fast attack compared to the other two and heals you when you hit enemies. When you kite backwards, they barely touch you

[Invictus]

I agree with son-goku, power fists are the best, also with big enemies if you know how to kite keeping range.

[ImHelping]

Originally posted by son-goku:

Spear stuns but when you deal with a wave of small enemies, like canoptrix or the other variants, then the power fist is really something. Insanely fast attack compared to the other two and heals you when you hit enemies. When you kite backwards, they barely touch you

A lot of people in any game from digital to tabletop constantly mistake "They don't spam enemies immune to this-" as "overpowered" So the spear could do half the damage it does now and they would still cry it is overpowered.

You learn these things watching somebody ♥♥♥♥♥ about traits that let you deal normal damage to werewolves without needing magic or silver as ruining their campaign with "broken OP damage". when tickling them with for regular damage instead of dealing bonus extra damage.

Speaking of physical damage, I would like the regular sword more if it was a wide swing taking advantage of the size instead of just lazily attacking directly in front of you. When you equip double swords it is clear the game is going out of it's way to ensure you hit as few enemies as possible with your big swords.

When the sword is clearly being hamstrung on purpose, little wonder people think the fists are "super strong" regardless of life drain. It is comparing a normal weapon to a shoddy one.

[Songbird]

Power fist DPS is insane, and it's not really resisted by anything. If you circle around enemies you don't get hit in this game, so being melee isn't really a problem in that regard. It does have some issues with approaching large groups of ranged enemies as with all melee weapons, and of course there are the enemy types that teleport away when you close to melee distance where it's completely ineffective (though this is more of a campaign issue than survival).

[LiberTea]

I've found both spear and power fist useful. Spear felt better for big enemies and as already mentioned, power fists just pretty much delete everything else.

[Invictus]

Originally posted by Songbird:

Power fist DPS is insane, and it's not really resisted by anything. If you circle around enemies you don't get hit in this game, so being melee isn't really a problem in that regard. It does have some issues with approaching large groups of ranged enemies as with all melee weapons, and of course there are the enemy types that teleport away when you close to melee distance where it's completely ineffective (though this is more of a campaign issue than survival).

Power fists with acid damage mod (for the rock guys with 50% resistance to energy) and you are good.

[Bobucles]

Spears are okay, probably the best of melee. They have decent range and splash damage.
Explosives are the goat. Big damage, big AoE, and a surprisingly rich ammo supply.

[Panterich]

What gun combination do you consider to be suitable for later survival?

Originally posted by Moglom:

Even when you're out, double Blaster seems better than Melee

Double blaster might be better in attacking say arachnoids in a checkered pattern, or perhaps a single gnerot, but in other cases you are better off with double spear instead. It has a considerable splash and allows you to hit through both walls and rocks, should such need arise. It also hits all around you, which helps when strafing instead of backpedaling.

[Moglom]

Originally posted by Panterich:

What gun combination do you consider to be suitable for later survival?

Originally posted by Moglom:

Even when you're out, double Blaster seems better than Melee

Double blaster might be better in attacking say arachnoids in a checkered pattern, or perhaps a single gnerot, but in other cases you are better off with double spear instead. It has a considerable splash and allows you to hit through both walls and rocks, should such need arise. It also hits all around you, which helps when strafing instead of backpedaling.

You can use 2 melee weapons at once? That makes them way better. Then disregard my concerns.

As for suitable weapons. Explision and energy can get you anywhere you wanna go. :)

[Kain]

Originally posted by Moglom:

As for suitable weapons. Explision and energy can get you anywhere you wanna go. :)

For everything else, there's MasterCard.

[MaceX]

You really only need the spear for the big enemies. The little ones you can simply use Emergency Explosion skill to escape if you get surround. But you can normally take them down using the Dash with an damage trail. Simply circle around and let the weak enemies run through it.

[Gauntlegrym]

Energy swords are OP as F***k. 3 life steal mods on one. Range on the other. 2x offense mod, 2x defense mod. Chop suey

[Geirfinna Lieselotte]

I play on higher difficulties with larger and more frequent waves, so melee weapons are a must have.
I rush the trident (a DLC weapon) and dual wield that thing, it's a beast. It's quick, long raach, large AoE and doesn't slow you a lot.

It has enough range to harm the elusive creatures like the thunder-caster, the lava buddy or the kiter bugs in swamps ; well, all creatures that flees/teleport away/burry themselves when you get too close.