As a solo gatherer how do you survive red/black zones?

[solaris32]

If I'm found I'm instaganked no matter what I do. I go in naked, still ganked by solo pkers. Go in armed to the teeth? a group of 3 or more gank me anyway and I lose more stuff. How in the world are you supposed to infiltrate deep into the zones without getting killed on the long trek back to safety?

[Zornvel]

Luck
It also depends when you play, during the maintime it will get hart.
I always did low risk, Horse, Tool, t3 eqp gether my stuff never so much that I could not run at full speed when my horse left me :(
Even then 1 out of 3 times I got killed
But I always say to me I am dead if I could return back to the city this will be a surprise.

[Psyick]

I would suggest investing in specter boots, its long invisibilty ability is quite good for both ganking and escaping ganks

[Sarans(A)sky ,;`G:.r;z`m,i"""j""]

Dude, same issue here, this is why i quit the game , i mean whats the point of wearing high level gear ... ? U can spend god knows how much to craft it but never wear it and store it in your bank so u can look at it ? This makes no sense . Also game lacks PvE content and forces u to PvP , and i like freedom in mmorpg's - thats next reason why i quit .

[GanksThor]

1. stay always 1 click away from your mount....if you see a red name...jump on your horse
2. have a fast mount...
3. farm with combat gear...and take some pork pie to boost your gathering bonus
4. specter boots are expensive but the best and easiest way to escape
5. dont lose gear that you cant afford to lose

[McFuzz]

The above advice is subpar (except the spectre boots). You should do black zone more than red zone, as it is far safer due to less players, and here's how you get away with it:

-Go into zones that don't have a main road through them. Less players will happen upon you while they're doing their own business.
-Stay far, far away from the road. As soon as you're in the zone, dip off the road. AND don't go off road in areas where that's the quickest way to the next zone, or you will get ganked.
-Take care which city portal you use. More big guilds and gankers operate out of Caerleon. You're better off moving to Lymhurst or Fort Sterling and using those portals. (For example, Arch owns 20 territories out of Caerleon and they have 10,000 players!)
-Stay awar from the territories, or big forts. As far as possible. Guildies will be running back and forth to these zones constantly to drop off loot.
-Join a guild that owns territories and stay in that territory to gather.
-Run if you see a player of any kind. An individual guy can't dismount you easily, but individuals will try to bait you or chase you into their invisible allies.
-Use T4 gear and mount, and buy the gear with the most useful skills (such as the cleric cowl's invincibility on hit). Use the pie as someone else mentioned, to make up for your lack of gatherer gear, or...
-Use gatherer gear and put all the escapes on. Most of them have things to put asleep enemies, move extremely fast, or go invisible to get away.
-Find a partner. Most individuals, no matter how geared, won't approach two or more red names incoming, unless they're baiting for bigger gank squads.

It's actually super easy if you've ever played stealth or survival games before. I've only died 2 times in the Black Zone, and one time I just did it to see if people were patrolling a certain area... They were lol

[solaris32]

Postat inițial de Frank McFuzz:

The above advice is subpar (except the spectre boots). You should do black zone more than red zone, as it is far safer due to less players, and here's how you get away with it:

-Go into zones that don't have a main road through them. Less players will happen upon you while they're doing their own business.
-Stay far, far away from the road. As soon as you're in the zone, dip off the road. AND don't go off road in areas where that's the quickest way to the next zone, or you will get ganked.
-Take care which city portal you use. More big guilds and gankers operate out of Caerleon. You're better off moving to Lymhurst or Fort Sterling and using those portals. (For example, Arch owns 20 territories out of Caerleon and they have 10,000 players!)
-Stay awar from the territories, or big forts. As far as possible. Guildies will be running back and forth to these zones constantly to drop off loot.
-Join a guild that owns territories and stay in that territory to gather.
-Run if you see a player of any kind. An individual guy can't dismount you easily, but individuals will try to bait you or chase you into their invisible allies.
-Use T4 gear and mount, and buy the gear with the most useful skills (such as the cleric cowl's invincibility on hit). Use the pie as someone else mentioned, to make up for your lack of gatherer gear, or...
-Use gatherer gear and put all the escapes on. Most of them have things to put asleep enemies, move extremely fast, or go invisible to get away.
-Find a partner. Most individuals, no matter how geared, won't approach two or more red names incoming, unless they're baiting for bigger gank squads.

It's actually super easy if you've ever played stealth or survival games before. I've only died 2 times in the Black Zone, and one time I just did it to see if people were patrolling a certain area... They were lol

It's good advice, but I just want to gather and not jump through hoops to be able to do it safely without human players trying to kill me. When people said this was pvp focused, I didn't know they meant all high tier resources are locked in pvp areas.

[McFuzz]

Then I don't know what you're looking for. If you use the common safe strategies you'll go hours without seeing another player. If that's not good enough for you, and that you might get ganked once in every eight trips, then feel free to move on.

I can't wish tier 8 nodes into a yellow zone for you.

[tametheark]

Gather in Red Zones, because you can actually see how many hostile are there in the red zone by the map. Players don't like to PK much in Red Zone because they lose reputation, so you'll be facing more solo PK rather than gank zergs. Red Zones are safer because most people Blue Name will attack the Red Name pkers, because the Red Names are usually out numbered and it means free loot to all blue names nearby.

[MaGicBush]

Postat inițial de 123:

Gather in Red Zones, because you can actually see how many hostile are there in the red zone by the map. Players don't like to PK much in Red Zone because they lose reputation, so you'll be facing more solo PK rather than gank zergs. Red Zones are safer because most people Blue Name will attack the Red Name pkers, because the Red Names are usually out numbered and it means free loot to all blue names nearby.

Is that really how it ends up working out though? I see so many complain about getting ganked by large zergs in red zones. I have yet to venture into PvP or red zones, but I plan to soon as I have just about got all my gathering up to T5.

[tametheark]

Postat inițial de MaGicBush:

Postat inițial de 123:

Gather in Red Zones, because you can actually see how many hostile are there in the red zone by the map. Players don't like to PK much in Red Zone because they lose reputation, so you'll be facing more solo PK rather than gank zergs. Red Zones are safer because most people Blue Name will attack the Red Name pkers, because the Red Names are usually out numbered and it means free loot to all blue names nearby.

Is that really how it ends up working out though? I see so many complain about getting ganked by large zergs in red zones. I have yet to venture into PvP or red zones, but I plan to soon as I have just about got all my gathering up to T5.

Yes that's how it works. You can always even farm near the bubble and if you have a dash or carry invisibity postion you can always dash/invisible and get the bubble to become immune to dmg.

[Nobody410]

Skill.

[Wunderland]

Red Zones are generally safer than black Zones id say. The number of gankers is higher, but they are FAR more unorganized. Mostly its randos or passerbyes that dont know what theyre doing.

In Black Zone you will get ganked by 10+ Man squads that dismount, open from stealth, surround you and have exits covered. I 'saw' more gankers in redzones in past 2 months, but never died to them whereas blackzones most of the time you see a ganker up close you are already dead man walking.

Reasons for that are that in red zones you get a defense buff, theres less valuable ressources so gatherers are lower value targets, reputation hit, high traffic (Faction Squads and Hellgate Teams can catch gankers, also other gankers). All of these things combined make it so that you get mostly the unexperienced people in redzones.

Rules of Survival are simple:
Never go overweight and use a fast Mount (swiftclaw or armored horse)
Mount up and run into opposite exit as soon as you see red especially skull, dont stop
Learn the game mechanics, your skills etc. (e.g. know how to use dungeon portals to your advantage, knowing how and when map exits let you traverse)
Familiarize yourself with the zone well, so you dont get slowed by mobs etc.
Dont wear gear that you are unconfortable with loosing ever (will cause anxiety and insecurity which can lead to bad decisions)
Stay away from Hellgates, Roads, and Entrances in general

Getting ganked sucks but you should always try to use it as a learning experience and think about what you could do better.

[bLz']

Postat inițial de solaris32:

If I'm found I'm instaganked no matter what I do. I go in naked, still ganked by solo pkers. Go in armed to the teeth? a group of 3 or more gank me anyway and I lose more stuff. How in the world are you supposed to infiltrate deep into the zones without getting killed on the long trek back to safety?

Use equip with a lot of movement. And dont loose ur mount. Mount is a huuuuuge protection


But if ure a noobie, dont gsther or craft ever. Jzst clear dungeons and buy your eq.

[Lkledu]

Postat inițial de dr.QQNah Moon New .HK:

Dude, same issue here, this is why i quit the game , i mean whats the point of wearing high level gear ... ? U can spend god knows how much to craft it but never wear it and store it in your bank so u can look at it ? This makes no sense . Also game lacks PvE content and forces u to PvP , and i like freedom in mmorpg's - thats next reason why i quit .

the hih level gear are normally used by players that play in group, so they can be strong and help each other, as a group, the risk to lose it is reduced by a lot. But you can get it to try solo world pvp if you want.

[solaris32]

Postat inițial de Lkledu:

Postat inițial de dr.QQNah Moon New .HK:

Dude, same issue here, this is why i quit the game , i mean whats the point of wearing high level gear ... ? U can spend god knows how much to craft it but never wear it and store it in your bank so u can look at it ? This makes no sense . Also game lacks PvE content and forces u to PvP , and i like freedom in mmorpg's - thats next reason why i quit .

the hih level gear are normally used by players that play in group, so they can be strong and help each other, as a group, the risk to lose it is reduced by a lot. But you can get it to try solo world pvp if you want.

Holy necro Batman! Brah this thread is almost 5 years old.