Anyone else hate Hugo?

[Genghis Tron]

I'm only in chapter 4 or 5 right now, but I can't stand this kid. I get he's young and all, but half the time he is just doing something dumb like not understanding he needs to shut up while the people trying to kill him and his sister are a few feet away. It's almost to an unrealistic degree since young kids will do dumb stuff, but quite a few understand danger especially when their caretaker is displaying obvious signs of extreme fear.

[Roy]

I didn't really find it unrealistic for a little boy that small who has never really left the house and only been in good hands, he's just unaware of the dangers.
I do feel like he gets a bit smarter as you play, but you might just hate him more later on.

[Demitr]

Just hold his hand all the time.

[Snobby Hobo]

I think Hugo is quite a good depiction of what you would expect of child age 5/6 in the described setting. The nurture aspect of life is learning what is dangerous and what is not. Hugo hasn't fully developed that sense yet. Younger children are also far more prone to getting caught up in an irrational state. I do however have one problem with him in the story, but that is a serious spoiler unless you have finished the game.

Extreme spoilers:
In the story I think the fact that Hugo is seriously considering killing his own sister because she didn't tell the kid his mother was still alive is completely out of whack(this is after he is sent towards their hideout with the inquisitors because his mother is held captive). No child of that age(5 or 6), unless showing severe signs of psychopathy, would ever even think of doing that. Especially knowing she is just trying to protect him and has always been. I understand that Hugo didn't resist to the journey of finding and killing the protagonists(as he was just trying to save his mother), but he almost gives in to killing her in a stand-off. It felt like a really big plothole to me.

[Killer Kitten]

引用自 Genghis Tron：

I'm only in chapter 4 or 5 right now, but I can't stand this kid. I get he's young and all, but half the time he is just doing something dumb like not understanding he needs to shut up while the people trying to kill him and his sister are a few feet away. It's almost to an unrealistic degree since young kids will do dumb stuff, but quite a few understand danger especially when their caretaker is displaying obvious signs of extreme fear.

Hugo's talking has 0 impact on whether you're caught. In fact it's only if you leave him behind

And they do make it clear that no, he doesn't realize the danger

[Smig]

I think you're supposed to hate him at times. He's probably intentionally written that way. I think Amicia is supposed to be annoyed with him as well, especially because she's not well equipped to deal with him, much less with him in that context.

Having said that, I kind of agree that Hugo is not a very realistic character. A 5 year old would most likely be clinging on to his big sister for dear life if he's being chased through the streets by bad men that want to hurt him, instead of throwing a tantrum and then running off into the unknown where said men are.

[Snobby Hobo]

引用自 Smig：

I think you're supposed to hate him at times. He's probably intentionally written that way. I think Amicia is supposed to be annoyed with him as well, especially because she's not well equipped to deal with him, much less with him in that context.

Having said that, I kind of agree that Hugo is not a very realistic character. A 5 year old would most likely be clinging on to his big sister for dear life if he's being chased through the streets by bad men that want to hurt him, instead of throwing a tantrum and then running off into the unknown where said men are.

I don't necessarily agree with that. Having been a babysitter plenty a decade ago taught me young children are both very good at putting themselves in harms way as well failing to understand consequences. Partially this is a beneficial tendency as kids are programmed to explore their environment. Something that obviously does not apply to the setting the game is in.

Also I don't think he's intentionally written to be annoying at times. He's a pretty good depiction of a young child, and that was probably simply the aim.

[InvariableVT]

I hate Hugo.

[Disgruntled Cuttlefish]

引用自 Smig：

Having said that, I kind of agree that Hugo is not a very realistic character. A 5 year old would most likely be clinging on to his big sister for dear life if he's being chased through the streets by bad men that want to hurt him, instead of throwing a tantrum and then running off into the unknown where said men are.

Lol ridiculous!

[Smig]

引用自 Incredibly average：

引用自 Smig：

I think you're supposed to hate him at times. He's probably intentionally written that way. I think Amicia is supposed to be annoyed with him as well, especially because she's not well equipped to deal with him, much less with him in that context.

Having said that, I kind of agree that Hugo is not a very realistic character. A 5 year old would most likely be clinging on to his big sister for dear life if he's being chased through the streets by bad men that want to hurt him, instead of throwing a tantrum and then running off into the unknown where said men are.

I don't necessarily agree with that. Having been a babysitter plenty a decade ago taught me young children are both very good at putting themselves in harms way as well failing to understand consequences. Partially this is a beneficial tendency as kids are programmed to explore their environment. Something that obviously does not apply to the setting the game is in.

Also I don't think he's intentionally written to be annoying at times. He's a pretty good depiction of a young child, and that was probably simply the aim.

The problem is that he's not oblivious to the danger. He acknowledges it, he shows ugency and shows fear in his dialog with Amicia as they're running away, and then right after that he draws attention to himself and runs off out into the danger, and worse than that, to the unknown, away from the only person he knows, on a situation where he's already lost.

This isn't motivated by exploration. This is a tantrum based on being taken away from his mother. I can't say it can't happen, but it takes some extra suspension of disbelief to believe that particular chain of events.

[Snobby Hobo]

引用自 Smig：

引用自 Incredibly average：

I don't necessarily agree with that. Having been a babysitter plenty a decade ago taught me young children are both very good at putting themselves in harms way as well failing to understand consequences. Partially this is a beneficial tendency as kids are programmed to explore their environment. Something that obviously does not apply to the setting the game is in.

Also I don't think he's intentionally written to be annoying at times. He's a pretty good depiction of a young child, and that was probably simply the aim.

The problem is that he's not oblivious to the danger. He acknowledges it, he shows ugency and shows fear in his dialog with Amicia as they're running away, and then right after that he draws attention to himself and runs off out into the danger, and worse than that, to the unknown, away from the only person he knows, on a situation where he's already lost.

This isn't motivated by exploration. This is a tantrum based on being taken away from his mother. I can't say it can't happen, but it takes some extra suspension of disbelief to believe that particular chain of events.

I don't think you really understand my point. When you tell a child of 4 years old fire is very dangerous, then make some sort of intimidating gesture to reinforce the concept(burning something eg) they will very much understand that "fire is bad". But given the next chance they'll try something stupid like playing pretend make cookies over a firepit. They don't do this because they rationally weight the advantages of exploring to dangers, they just do - because children are intrinsically naive because it benefits our species to try and do stupid things and fail, to a degree.

The tantrum is simply a depiction of the irrational state I described before. Children are very good in getting caught up in something really petty, and neglect everything else.

[Smig]

引用自 Incredibly average：

引用自 Smig：

The problem is that he's not oblivious to the danger. He acknowledges it, he shows ugency and shows fear in his dialog with Amicia as they're running away, and then right after that he draws attention to himself and runs off out into the danger, and worse than that, to the unknown, away from the only person he knows, on a situation where he's already lost.

This isn't motivated by exploration. This is a tantrum based on being taken away from his mother. I can't say it can't happen, but it takes some extra suspension of disbelief to believe that particular chain of events.

I don't think you really understand my point. When you tell a child of 4 years old fire is very dangerous, then make some sort of intimidating gesture to reinforce the concept(burning something eg) they will very much understand that "fire is bad". But given the next chance they'll try something stupid like playing pretend make cookies over a firepit. They don't do this because they rationally weight the advantages of exploring to dangers, they just do - because children are intrinsically naive because it benefits our species to try and do stupid things and fail, to a degree.

The tantrum is simply a depiction of the irrational state I described before. Children are very good in getting caught up in something really petty, and neglect everything else.

There is a difference between learning about a danger and fearing it. It seems that in your example, children were taught the danger, but didn't actually fear it, probably because that fear was the result of a rational calculation about its potential dangers. In fact, they often end up learning on their own just how bad fire is (I still have one such memory myself) and then really fear it. Either way, it's arguable how much the fear of fire is innately built into a child.

What I don't think it's arguable is that whatever emotional distress that the fear of fire may cause, it's nowhere near the one in regards to menacing, unknown, adult human beings. I can't imagine 5 year old children not being absolutely terrified, even scarred for life, if a mob of hostile adults chased them down the streets to hurt them. We're talking about a different order of magnitude of fears here.

I'm not discounting your experience with children. I will accept that it could happen, due to a level of irrationality and unpredictability, but my own observations tell me that this particular scenario that was written for Hugo is unlikely in the very least.

[Wrex Hammerhead]

引用自 Smig：

引用自 Incredibly average：

I don't necessarily agree with that. Having been a babysitter plenty a decade ago taught me young children are both very good at putting themselves in harms way as well failing to understand consequences. Partially this is a beneficial tendency as kids are programmed to explore their environment. Something that obviously does not apply to the setting the game is in.

Also I don't think he's intentionally written to be annoying at times. He's a pretty good depiction of a young child, and that was probably simply the aim.

The problem is that he's not oblivious to the danger. He acknowledges it, he shows ugency and shows fear in his dialog with Amicia as they're running away, and then right after that he draws attention to himself and runs off out into the danger, and worse than that, to the unknown, away from the only person he knows, on a situation where he's already lost.

This isn't motivated by exploration. This is a tantrum based on being taken away from his mother. I can't say it can't happen, but it takes some extra suspension of disbelief to believe that particular chain of events.

I personally took it as a stem from the fact that Amicia sees Hugo so little that when she first sees him she has to introduce herself to him due to the kid being so sheltered by the mother. So sheltered in fact that I don’t think the kid even has an idea of how dangerous strangers can be.

Combo that with Amicia being close to a stranger. Telling him that a certain someone who died, the only really person he saw regularly, and then proceeds to yell at him some more.

I basically chalk it up to Hugo being autistic from being a bubble child.

[tigerpoetry]

Personally I don't hate Hugo but we're all entitled to our opinion.

I found his character quite believable. as others have said he's got plenty of reasons to choose from as to why his behaviour wouldn't be 'normal', whatever normal is.

Combine that with the fact that he's a small child and we seem to be discussing him from an adult point of view. I could cite examples of my daughter's adventures at that age but that wouldn't be fair. Instead I'll quote myself at that age.

On a family trip to the roman wall in Cumbria I climbed up onto it despite my parents' desperate cries for me to stop. I then ran along its massively uneven surface, giggling (and still ignoring them) until I tripped, fell headlong and smashed my front teeth out on a piece of masonry. I don't recall thinking 'Ooh, they're scared, I must stop!' I was too busy having fun.

I'm afraid that's what kids are like... or I was, anyway!

[Shadow]

I wish you can ditch the kid and go off on your own.

[rtwjunkie]

引用自 Shaman Mnyambo：

I wish you can ditch the kid and go off on your own.

Then you've lost the whole story and the driving force in the game which is their relationship. That relationship is the true main character. Game over.