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Shooty Manz Oct 22, 2020 @ 7:23pm
Confirmed: Crucifix DOES work while holding it in your hands
Its a 3m radius circle of protection around you (5-6m for banshees) that prevents ghost to start a hunt if its able to. Just like how it works when you throw it on the ground.

We have tested this twice now and both games we got the "prevent a ghost from starting a hunt with a crucifix" objective done while holding the cross out in our hands. The 2nd one was spooky because we both had it out and it turned out to be a banshee. My friend and I were running to the breaker as she kept shutting it off and 1 time we went to the breaker and turned the lights back on, he noticed his crucifix wasn't in his hands anymore. We were both around each other all game walking around for protection as the ghost will try to teleport/spawn near players or its favourite room during a hunt.

I am not sure if all ghosts attempt to teleport or how far they can from their favoured room but we were across the house and this ♥♥♥♥♥ tried to hunt us. As the crucifix was just "poof" gone from his hands, we knew that at some point before during the round she had tried to start a hunt. So both his charges got used up and we tried to get out. Sadly now that we were down 1 crucifix, she was able to get 1 hunt off where we successfully hid and were able to get out after. We guess that she must have just been outside of the range of mine as he was a bit further to my side. It would make sense as well as Banshees target 1 player all game until they are dead. Then picks a new target. So if he was the target and was just outside of the range of my crucifix when she tried to check for a hunt, she would have gotten it off no problems.

It seems that most other ghosts attempt to spawn somewhere near the players and in or around its favourite room 'if it can'. I've seen them spawn a few times now outside the area they should be allowed to spawn in so more testing will be needed for now.

But rejoice! You can now properly role play a priest and hold out your cross chanting the Lord's prayer and claim to be helping the team. :praisesun::praisesun::praisesun:
Last edited by Shooty Manz; Oct 22, 2020 @ 7:25pm
Originally posted by CakeIsAlright:
This has already been consistently tested and confirmed, by multiple people, both looking at the game's code as well as testing in-game with mods that:


- show the ghost's location before it attempts to start a hunt.
- displaying the exact distance between the ghost and the crucifix.
- force ghost hunt.
- confirms that "activeInHierarchy[docs.unity3d.com]" includes being held on your hand, not just on the floor.

The crucifix even dissappears in your hands after its second use.

This is in the current version at least and I doubt the way it works has been changed in the beta.

This has already been put to bed a long time ago, but people insist on regurgitating misinformation, based on speculation and misunderstanding of the internal workings of the game.

The game uses a whole lot of randomness, and it's easy to see where people's misunderstandings come from when they try to explain why they think the crucifix doesn't work in your hand.

For those that remain convinced it doesn't work in your hand, test your hypothesis in a controlled environment where you control the exact location of the ghost, the exact location of the crucifix and when the ghost hunts.
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Cursed Hawkins Oct 22, 2020 @ 7:55pm 
Didn't you try to proclaim this already and were proven wrong then?
Shooty Manz Oct 22, 2020 @ 8:08pm 
Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:
Didn't you try to proclaim this already and were proven wrong then?

Not that I am aware of. There's a lot of stuff in the game that is hard to confirm with how much conjecture is flying around. At first we all thought crucifix did nothing in your hands because it was said you needed to place it down on the ground by streamers.

Having seen this work multiple times now while holding it, I don't know how it could be anything but correct for it to work both ways. It seems to just check if the ghost can attempt its hunt when near you. So you can either be a mobile protection circle with it, or place it down where you think the ghost is likely to try and spawn to start its hunts. In small rooms/houses this is easy. On bigger levels I don't even know that its worth placing them because half the time you're walking around the hallways and such so the ghost is likely to spawn near you rather than at its room.

In the end though it seems to be a coin toss because no matter what the ghost always has a chance to spawn outside the radius regardless of where it is. :\
Last edited by Shooty Manz; Oct 22, 2020 @ 8:09pm
A Temu Vape Oct 22, 2020 @ 8:13pm 
It was literally datamined that this isn't how they work.
BullseyeP90 Oct 22, 2020 @ 8:22pm 
When I started playing I always kept the crucifix in my hands when trying to use it, didnt even know it could work while on the ground lol, so yeah I know it works both ways, actually I've had more success with crucifix objectives while holding it in my hand than on the ground...

But regardless, I think they should change it so that it can protect you during a hunt, not just a "proximity check" upon starting the hunt... It makes no sense.
Last edited by BullseyeP90; Oct 22, 2020 @ 8:23pm
Shooty Manz Oct 22, 2020 @ 8:36pm 
Originally posted by SkitBlu:
It was literally datamined that this isn't how they work.

The guy who data mined it did NOT get everything from the game. Also his data mining is likely out of date and incomplete. His wording was also horrible so many things don't make sense.

Also if you think about it, the game is trying to detect the model of the crucifix when performing a hunt check. Why would it matter if its placed on the ground or in your hands? Smudge works the same way. You can hold the smudge in your hands and get the ghost and its room with it. As long as the smudge/ghost is within the range of the radius then it works. In your hands, or on the ground, don't matter.

Again, try this yourself, you will see.

Other things that are proximity based: Spirit box, EMF, Thermometer, etc. They all have a detection radius around them. Spirit box works both in your hands and on the ground. Same with EMF. Both have a tiny range of about 2-3m. You do not have to have the EMF in your hands to get a 5 reading contrary to what many people seem to think. I've seen many EMF 5 readings on the ground for the required ghost types when they were interacting with things around the EMF reader. Great to place it on a table like in the dining room or kitchen on the smaller levels to free your hands for other tasks.

There is a lot of misinformation going around and this is why I wanted to test it today to confirm. I'm glad to know that you can act as a mobile anti-hunt circle now. Will work great when we know we're dealing with a banshee.

Other things we've made work as well: the parabolic microphone. A lot of people read or saw a streamer say its bad so they don't use it. It works just like the sound sensor except its portable. It projects a box out in font of it and gives you a reading of 3.0 or higher if its a ghost noise and no other players are in front of you. You can use it to narrow down the rooms pretty handily as it can cover an area of about about 4 rooms (2x2 in size). Only bug is if it doesn't work or gives a 0.0 reading, just turn it off, throw it on the ground, pick it back up and it should work normally.

Originally posted by FER SIGMAR!:
Originally posted by SkitBlu:
It was literally datamined that this isn't how they work.

The guy who data mined it did NOT get everything from the game. Also his data mining is likely out of date and incomplete. His wording was also horrible so many things don't make sense.

Also if you think about it, the game is trying to detect the model of the crucifix when performing a hunt check. Why would it matter if its placed on the ground or in your hands? Smudge works the same way. You can hold the smudge in your hands and get the ghost and its room with it. As long as the smudge/ghost is within the range of the radius then it works. In your hands, or on the ground, don't matter.

Again, try this yourself, you will see.

Other things that are proximity based: Spirit box, EMF, Thermometer, etc. They all have a detection radius around them. Spirit box works both in your hands and on the ground. Same with EMF. Both have a tiny range of about 2-3m. You do not have to have the EMF in your hands to get a 5 reading contrary to what many people seem to think. I've seen many EMF 5 readings on the ground for the required ghost types when they were interacting with things around the EMF reader. Great to place it on a table like in the dining room or kitchen on the smaller levels to free your hands for other tasks.

There is a lot of misinformation going around and this is why I wanted to test it today to confirm. I'm glad to know that you can act as a mobile anti-hunt circle now. Will work great when we know we're dealing with a banshee.

Other things we've made work as well: the parabolic microphone. A lot of people read or saw a streamer say its bad so they don't use it. It works just like the sound sensor except its portable. It projects a box out in font of it and gives you a reading of 3.0 or higher if its a ghost noise and no other players are in front of you. You can use it to narrow down the rooms pretty handily as it can cover an area of about about 4 rooms (2x2 in size). Only bug is if it doesn't work or gives a 0.0 reading, just turn it off, throw it on the ground, pick it back up and it should work normally.
You are objectively incorrect. There is no conjecture here.
Shooty Manz Oct 22, 2020 @ 9:11pm 
Anything you don't believe me on you are more than welcome to go test on your own in game.

As I see there are a severe lack of people testing and retesting anything, I'm just going to go and stay nice and safe in my investigations with what I know. Figured I'd give a helpful tip to all those other people wondering just how the game works. :lunar2020ratinablanket:

AlphaGodith Oct 22, 2020 @ 9:14pm 
i was under the impression the ghost only spawned in set places, so it wouldn't help much to carry a crucifix around with you instead of setting it down on those spots. can they spawn anywhere?
AlphaGodith Oct 22, 2020 @ 9:15pm 
Originally posted by FER SIGMAR!:
Anything you don't believe me on you are more than welcome to go test on your own in game.

As I see there are a severe lack of people testing and retesting anything, I'm just going to go and stay nice and safe in my investigations with what I know. Figured I'd give a helpful tip to all those other people wondering just how the game works. :lunar2020ratinablanket:

i appreciate you. i don't understand why people get so combative about this stuff... we all want to figure it out, so why can't we work together?
Shooty Manz Oct 22, 2020 @ 9:30pm 
Originally posted by Godith Shadowind:
Originally posted by FER SIGMAR!:
Anything you don't believe me on you are more than welcome to go test on your own in game.

As I see there are a severe lack of people testing and retesting anything, I'm just going to go and stay nice and safe in my investigations with what I know. Figured I'd give a helpful tip to all those other people wondering just how the game works. :lunar2020ratinablanket:

i appreciate you. i don't understand why people get so combative about this stuff... we all want to figure it out, so why can't we work together?

Dunno, but there are a lot of people on reddit, in game, and on youtube/twitch putting out false information. Everyone including myself took the crucifix data mining thing to mean it HAD to be placed. Not that it was a literal in game "check" when the ghost attempts to spawn near you to hunt regardless of where the crucifix is (on the ground or out in your hands).

From what I've seen there are likely multiple models of the ghost or that its model teleports when it wants to try and do something. Like say you are outside the room and 1 player was in its room and heard loud footsteps or saw its footprints in the room. Next second you suddenly see it manifest outside the room to "scare" you. So there is a model in the room wandering around that you can't see and other ghost models get created/copied to do things like spook players, hunt, or interact with objects.

Most times I have seen a hunt, the ghost had been outside the room by a good distance but only if we ourselves were outside its room, like walking back into the house. I only see the ghost consistently attempt its hunts in its favoured room as well because the entire squad is in there trying to get evidence or trying to take pics and piss it off.

What this means then is if the ghost is in a small room: just place the crucifix down. Rooms like the laundry room or dining room in the house levels will be fully covered. So ghost will not be able to start its hunt checks there. If you are all spending a lot of time in those rooms, you will more than likely be safe. If you are doing a lot of walking back and forth though or its a big level like high school or asylum, suddenly having 1 player become a walking safety field can't hurt. Even better protection if the ghost is a banshee and attempting to spawn on you while walking back and forth to the van.

Another good thing to try and do is if its a small room like the dining room in Tanglewood street house, you can put 1 crucifix down in the middle of the table and 1 player can stand guard with their crucifix out by the basement door or place it on t he ground. That way you have created a "safe zone" of where the ghost cannot spawn to attempt a hunt, leaving you a safe exit to run if it still manages to start a hunt from another spot like by the sink in the kitchen or in the laundry room garage area. We do this strategy often as it provides us with the best coverage for safety and also lets us have more "get away" time to run and hide if it gets lucky and starts a hunt. Wraith is the only one that can always ruin your plans like this though sadly as they can go through walls. Though hilariously they cannot go through chairs, couches, tables, or kitchen islands.
RiB Rose Oct 22, 2020 @ 9:37pm 
per stated by the devs in the phasmophobia discord the Crucifix does not work while holding it.
AlphaGodith Oct 22, 2020 @ 9:52pm 
@fer sigmar! ; i do wonder about the ghost's physical presence. i've heard footsteps and seen lights flash WAY far away from the ghost's room, and those don't count as ghost events, so i'm thinking there is a physical(kinda) ghost model that wanders for hunts and evidence, but then there's also just atmospheric spooks that don't rely on the ghost's location to happen.... no actual idea but it's something i'd love to know.

do you also know whether the ghost is attracted to sound while hunting? that's another one people are arguing about a lot.
Shooty Manz Oct 22, 2020 @ 9:58pm 
Originally posted by PathogenicRose:
per stated by the devs in the phasmophobia discord the Crucifix does not work while holding it.

Yes, we've heard that. However, there is only 1 dev. Not multiple. And again, we literally tried this several times. It works. So either its a bug and not intended to work or they meant it does not stop a hunt in progress by holding it out. OR they meant it does not work while its in your inventory and you are not holding it out. Context and wording are everything.

You are more than welcome to test things yourself.
Shooty Manz Oct 22, 2020 @ 10:03pm 
Originally posted by Godith Shadowind:
@fer sigmar! ; i do wonder about the ghost's physical presence. i've heard footsteps and seen lights flash WAY far away from the ghost's room, and those don't count as ghost events, so i'm thinking there is a physical(kinda) ghost model that wanders for hunts and evidence, but then there's also just atmospheric spooks that don't rely on the ghost's location to happen.... no actual idea but it's something i'd love to know.

do you also know whether the ghost is attracted to sound while hunting? that's another one people are arguing about a lot.

We were testing the sound thing today as well. We need to try more times but as far as we could tell it seems to be line of sight based. Interesting thing: ghosts don't care about doors. They can see through doors and phase through them. They are not required to open a door to see you in a room. This makes hiding behind something in the corner of a room well away from the door pretty important so that you break LoS from the actual doorway.

This is likely backed up by the fact that when you do die and enter "ghost mode", you will notice that there are no doors anywhere in the level. Closet doors are still there and seem to work to break LoS, but all the actual doors to bedrooms and rooms are gone.

We've tried to walk around, make noise, talk on discord, talk in game, etc. Hard to tell if it works or not or has any effect. Also certain ghost types make this harder to test. The best ghost to test this on though would be the Wraith. As it can go through walls (not see through them), if making noise lets it home in on you and get you through a wall, then you know that your noise level will have something to do with it. Currently still testing though.
Shooty Manz Oct 22, 2020 @ 10:14pm 
From the dev's own discord:

Q: How do crucifixes work?
A: Crucifixes prevent hunts. As long as the Crucifix is near the Ghost when it tries to hunt, the hunt won't start. For best results, put the crucifix where you think the ghost will start hunting from. The Crucifix only stops two Hunting phases.

There is nothing here that states it MUST be placed down on the ground to function. Just that its a good idea to place it where you think the ghost is likely to start its hunting phases from. But again, as ghosts can attempt to spawn near you while you are away from its room, it may be good to carry with you at times as I had seen.

Also, from Azry's Github data mined information on the ghost hunt phase:
"If a crucifix is within 3m of the ghost (or 5m for banshees), the hunt will be cancelled, and the ghost will return to its favourite room."

Again, nothing about being placed on the ground. Just that the game tries to detect where the crucifix is in the level. For some reason though, we ALL took it to mean it must be placed because someone said so.

All the misinformation about this game started because someone said so and we all just took it as gospel. There are multiple things in the game that are bugged as well so we don't even know what is working as intended and what is a bug.
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Date Posted: Oct 22, 2020 @ 7:23pm
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