Venting about the time trials in Crash 1 (OP)/ Stormy Ascent and The Lab tips (Comments)

[Dark Fox]

Literally every time trial comes down to how well you can manipulate the cycle of hazards in a level and then complete it without dying, that's it. There's no slide jump, no sprint, no interesting shortcuts to speak of, it's just run forward and pray the cycles work in your favor.

I have 26/27 Platinum relics, I got Platinum on the Lab with .01 from getting a gold and now I'm doing the trial for Stormy Ascent, If the level gets even slightly out of sync you're either dead or you wont get the time you need. The Lab is hell, if the cycle is off by a millisecond you fail, if you're not moving forward for 99% of the level or dodge something the wrong way you fail, but at the very least it's a short 1 minute level, Stormy ascent is 3 and a half minutes of tedium. The first minute is a slog at this point because I can do it consistently, but there's at least 3 or 4 cycles or hazards afterwards that are almost entirely up to luck or perfect timing.

I just want to 100% this stupid game so I can get to the better Crash's but unfortunately they screwed up crash 2 as well with more stupid time trials.

If you're reading this I can only wish you luck if you want to get all platinum relics, It is a monotonous grind, you'll be on pace to get a platinum in a really long level but miss it because a platform isn't extended at the right time or there's a spike in your way. Remember Mouse Trap? That old boardgame? Imagine dusting that ancient relic off and trying to get the Rube Goldberg machine to drop the cage on the mouse the very first time, now try to do it 5-6 times in a row, that's what doing these time trials is like except instead of a mouse it's a big rat, and that big rat is the dev's at Vicarious Visions. ♥♥♥♥

[Casurin]

Origineel geplaatst door Dark Fox:

I just want to 100% this stupid game so I can get to the better Crash's but unfortunately they screwed up crash 2 as well with more stupid time trials.

The only thing stupid here is your mindset.
They added an extrra feature to the game and now you are complaining because you are NOT GOOD ENOUGH to beat that extra challange.
Oh poor you - you can't get 100% achievements on a game cause you are too bad of a player - how unfair of the world.

Grow up or get lost.

[Dark Fox]

Origineel geplaatst door Casurin:

Origineel geplaatst door Dark Fox:

I just want to 100% this stupid game so I can get to the better Crash's but unfortunately they screwed up crash 2 as well with more stupid time trials.

The only thing stupid here is your mindset.
They added an extrra feature to the game and now you are complaining because you are NOT GOOD ENOUGH to beat that extra challange.
Oh poor you - you can't get 100% achievements on a game cause you are too bad of a player - how unfair of the world.

Grow up or get lost.

I'm complaining because the mechanics of the game don't work for a time trial mode, adding a timer at the bottom of the screen doesn't make for a meaningful feature. I doubt you've gotten any platinums anyway, so you got no leg to stand on to complain about me complaining. Not good enough?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1899871256

Roasted

[Casurin]

Origineel geplaatst door Dark Fox:

I doubt you've gotten any platinums anyway, so you got no leg to stand on to complain about me complaining. Not good enough? Roasted

Yeah - with your immature behaviour you sure raosted someone - your self.

But do go ahead, keep ocmplaining about how anfair the game is - of course it is unfair against you to include an extra feature... XD

[Dark Fox]

Origineel geplaatst door Casurin:

Origineel geplaatst door Dark Fox:

I doubt you've gotten any platinums anyway, so you got no leg to stand on to complain about me complaining. Not good enough? Roasted

Yeah - with your immature behaviour you sure raosted someone - your self.

But do go ahead, keep ocmplaining about how anfair the game is - of course it is unfair against you to include an extra feature... XD

It's not that's its unfair, it's that it doesn't work, if you actually got any of the relics you'd know what I'm talking about, but I don't think you have, you're just seeing me complaining and you're upset that I'm criticizing a game you like.

[Mez Koo]

I like that they added time trials to the first game, it gave me a reason to run through levels a 3rd time, if you don't like it or if you can't do it then don't do it? I don't see the point in complaining about an additional game mode that is completely optional.

[CrowRising]

Technically the ending where you fight Cortex instead of rescuing Tawna is the canon one, as it leads directly into the intro cutscene for Crash 2. As such, getting absolutely everything to full completion in Crash 1 is strictly optional in a sequential trilogy playthrough. Even if you were to go for the rescue ending, the time trials don't factor into this.

The same is true for Crash 2. The time trials are strictly optional and exist purely for bragging rights, and you can get both endings entirely without them.

Crash 3 is the only one with mandatory time trials for full completion, and even then you don't even need platinum, only gold.

Honestly, there's no reason to get angry over the time trials in general. There's literally no reason to go for all the platinums in the three games unless you really just care about bragging rights that much, in which case you should be expecting a trek through hell anyway. That's what makes bragging rights... Well, bragging rights.

[Dark Fox]

Origineel geplaatst door CrowRising:

Technically the ending where you fight Cortex instead of rescuing Tawna is the canon one, as it leads directly into the intro cutscene for Crash 2. As such, getting absolutely everything to full completion in Crash 1 is strictly optional in a sequential trilogy playthrough. Even if you were to go for the rescue ending, the time trials don't factor into this.

The same is true for Crash 2. The time trials are strictly optional and exist purely for bragging rights, and you can get both endings entirely without them.

Crash 3 is the only one with mandatory time trials for full completion, and even then you don't even need platinum, only gold.

Honestly, there's no reason to get angry over the time trials in general. There's literally no reason to go for all the platinums in the three games unless you really just care about bragging rights that much, in which case you should be expecting a trek through hell anyway. That's what makes bragging rights... Well, bragging rights.

My bad everyone, I was reading a guide that said you need to get all the platinum relics before you go to the secret ending in the great hall for crash 1. I just wanted to 105% then game, I didn't know you didn't actually need the platinum relics just the gold. Sorry for getting all grumpy.

[TransparentBlue]

While it's true the movement is less technical CB1 still has some interesting strategies to it if you wanna go fast, granted a few levels have weird inconsistent cycles (the first two spike traps from Native Fortress being the best example of that where they randomly will be just right to go through without stopping but other times will require two major stop)
I haven't felt it being too bad of a grind up until now, granted I only have The Lab and Stormy Ascent left to platinum, and that's probably not gonna go as smooth.

[Dark Fox]

Origineel geplaatst door TransparentBlue:

While it's true the movement is less technical CB1 still has some interesting strategies to it if you wanna go fast, granted a few levels have weird inconsistent cycles (the first two spike traps from Native Fortress being the best example of that where they randomly will be just right to go through without stopping but other times will require two major stop)
I haven't felt it being too bad of a grind up until now, granted I only have The Lab and Stormy Ascent left to platinum, and that's probably not gonna go as smooth.

I did em here's some tips-


The Lab:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHlmG7dM0GY

@ 0:40, He's spinning this enemy straight ahead to blow up tnt boxes in the next room, if you don't do this your run is dead.

@1:01 Instead of jumping on the TNT you can jump on the sides of the room and jump back around them to save a second.

Stormy Ascent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMCB-VJkKyM

Start the timer when the stairs are down to have a good cycle.

@0:46, your timer should be around 38-40 seconds if you did the first part right,

@1:15, This is the run killer, if you can't make it on that platform moving left and right as soon as you jump you're out a sync and could potentially lose 15 seconds waiting for the platforms @1:18 to be at a place you can jump on them.

@1:28 You can wait a cycle here if you're unsure about the jump timing, in fact you can wait a cycle for most jumps to be safe, as long as you don't screw around too much the plat is pretty forgiving as far as the time goes, it's just a matter of not dying and doing it somewhat fast. The not dying part being the dumb part.

@1:38 You can fall off the second platform here which will take you to @1:43, you'll lose an aku aku mask most likely but a 5 second save is nice.

@1:51 you'll probably lose a mask here too since the jump is so tight, I've managed to squeeze between the stairs/ramp and the spike without losing it but it's finicky, you shouldn't take any damage past this point anyway.

@2:25, if you don't land on the second stair after the elevator don't try to do it on the first cycle or you won't have enough time before the stairs turn into a ramp, just wait another cycle.

@2:42 Same here

@2:57 time it so the platform is coming towards you, not away from you, the guy in the video barely got this jump, he's on pace to beat the platinum requirement by 20 seconds so if you're at his pace feel free to take a second on 2 make sure you do the jumps right since you're on the home stretch and don't wanna die here.

@ 3:01 This isn't as hard as it looks, As long as you don't jump way too early you should get it

@ 3:10 The closest bird to you should be pretty much as far out as you can jump, Dont jump on him if he's right next to you, don't jump on him when he's too far away. It's not super precise, as you can see he had to move back a bit to land on the final bird, but it is annoying.

@3:16, don't sweat it if you miss the 2 second freeze crate, I don't think it freezes the timer long enough to make a difference anyway

@3:23 This wasn't a perfect run by any means and he still beat the platinum by about 18 seconds, don't sweat it if you're not going as fast as this guy is, just focus on not dying. Even if you only manage a gold on your first run it's good to get all the way to the end as practice on doing a clean run.

[Walker]

Neo Cortex is a furry

[Mez Koo]

Origineel geplaatst door Walker:

Neo Cortex is a furry

Yes because he worked on devices to evolve the animals rather than make a device to devolve people?