Overwatch is a very flawed and abusable system.

[Hazard FALSE OW BAN RIP SKINS]

I've always thought overwatch was a good idea because I've never thought deeply about it. I personally haven't done an overwatch case in a LONG time. I very rarely see one of my friends doing an OW case. Which made me realize - the only people doing OW cases are people who have just unlocked overwatch. Practically new players are being trusted to be judge, jury, and executioner of our accounts. Even worse: There's probably people who have created armies of bots specifically made to do OW cases in an attempt to false ban people. They already fill up entire lobbies to XP grind for medals or who knows what else.

Recently I received a permanent ban through overwatch and I've never used cheats on ANY account. My account has never been compromised, nor have I ever received a griefing ban. I have over 25,000 hours in csgo (almost 3 years playtime, yes get a life, I know.) In that time i've played: 14,456 matchmaking games, 3,283 esea matches, 1,373 faceit matches. Faceit and Esea no bans. You don't even want to know how much money I've spent on skins that are gone now too. Valve pretty much said they don't overturn these bans in any case. They won't even show you the evidence for the ban because I highly doubt a Valve employee is even reviewing cases before banning someone, they're just letting overwatch handle everything which is horrifying.

I suspect the reason I was banned is because of an m_yaw bind that I use sometimes:

alias "+spinbot" "sensitivity 10; m_yaw 666"
alias "-spinbot" "sensitivity 2; m_yaw 0.022"
bind "x" "+spinbot"

It's a 180 degree turn bind. This bind uses nothing outside of console, but to a new player, it may look like a spin bot. It's extremely ineffective to use in-game because it locks your mouse up but I use it spinning around in spawn sometimes for fun.

I made a ticket on the support page but was given a copy pasted response saying they don't respond to unban requests and it was clear they didn't even read or research my ticket and case. I had a pretty lengthy ticket and they responded within ~10 minutes of me submitting my ticket with a fairly lengthy, albeit copy-pasted response. They'd barely even have time to read my ticket let alone look into the case with how fast they responded.

Valve trusts all of our accounts in the hands of new players and cheaters. They don't care how many thousands of dollars and hours you put into the game. They let incompetent kids ban their most loyal player without batting an eye.

[76561198363881884]

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CSGO developers and Valve don't read these forums.
Steam Support has nothing to do with CSGO bans.

If the ban is a false-positive it will be removed automatically by anti-cheat.
There is nothing you can do about it.

I know they don't read these, it's more of a PSA against overwatch and how flawed it is.

Overwatch has a trust factor system, it determines how accurate you are compared to the rest of the others. If you are bad, you get the easiest cases and if you are great and precise, you more often get the difficult cases.

Most people that get OW bans are either A) obviously cheating or B) Griefing.

If you have an idea of which game got you ban, record it and upload it to youtube and I'll take a look. Aside from that, from the userdata, you had several godo games with big points, could just be smurfing, but vac is 99% accurate, although I can concur false VACs happen, which happened to me back in 2016. False OWs are more rare, as it's not a system but people.

You are trying to social engineer a way out if I were to be more data driven.

[Fr4ntic]

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Kewl , can I mention that it has been pointed out earlier that if you look at OP his demo's ( which are viewable to evryone ) you can see blatand toggling and griefing so that kinda makes your story ...redundant

if you've taken the time to check my demo's then why haven't you also taken the time to upload said "blatand toggling" clips? idk why you're even bringing griefing into this when i already mentioned it's not a griefing ban. plus ow grief ban=30 days or something like that for the first one and in 14k+ matches i haven't even gotten the first grief ban.

My other hobby watching paint dry is taking much time of my busy schedule.

[76561198363881884]

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10,000 scout kills and not cheating? Which sane player would have so many kills on a scout.

Most people with 5000 hours don't even have that many AK/M4 kills.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1667987918075000230/39723760784C9074B60846BEE67196E5E6E8AA61/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

This literally means nothing, I can set up a custom workshop map with another cs account to get the kills within a day. I wouldn't trust you in OW.

[⎛ PlamAtom ⎞]

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You cannot mass report somebody... only people inside a match can report other players. Secondly according to your logic you can use a bhop-script based on alias commands, legitmatly? Flawed Logic... You cannot expect to remove any command that can be abused just because a small minority will abuse those.

mass reporting is possible if you know the API endpoint for reporting a csgo profile. you can find that endpoint using wireshark and a bit of network analysis. just because the only "allowed" way to mass report requires a shared match does not mean it is impossible to mass report someone with a minimum amount of technical ability using wireshark and postman.

yes, bhopping via console is not cheating. if it was cheating then it would be possible to get VAC banned for bhop scripts. it is not possible to get vac banned for bhop scripts, only overwatch which again shows that overwatch is a broken system.

Nope that is not possible since that endpoint is the coordinator which checks if you were in that match and guess what happend to those cheeky boys who were using those report bots over two years ago, every steam account who was used for sending such reports was banned.

Bhopping via console is Cheating, CS:GO Fair Play Guidelines clearly state:

Playing CS:GO together works best when everyone goes into a match with similar expectations. Players who choose to play on official CS:GO servers are expected to:

In all modes:
– Never cheat.
– Never grief or verbally abuse your teammates or opponents.
– Never use any automation for any reason.

https://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/fair-play-guidelines/

[Hazard FALSE OW BAN RIP SKINS]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Hazard FALSE OW BAN RIP SKINS:

if you've taken the time to check my demo's then why haven't you also taken the time to upload said "blatand toggling" clips? idk why you're even bringing griefing into this when i already mentioned it's not a griefing ban. plus ow grief ban=30 days or something like that for the first one and in 14k+ matches i haven't even gotten the first grief ban.

My other hobby watching paint dry is taking much time of my busy schedule.

but if you had the time to review my demos surely you have an extra couple minutes to upload the "blatand toggles." unless of course you're admitting you didn't actually check any of my demos and fabricated lies and accusations against me

[simon]

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fabricated lies

Ha, pot calling kettle. Still not unprivated your inventory yet then. ROFL. Nobody is falling for your alt posting BTW.

[Designated hitter]

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My other hobby watching paint dry is taking much time of my busy schedule.

but if you had the time to review my demos surely you have an extra couple minutes to upload the "blatand toggles." unless of course you're admitting you didn't actually check any of my demos and fabricated lies and accusations against me

Game bans happen outside of mm too, the server sided anti cheat has the ability to hand them out. There's people that have gotten game banned with 0 mm games played.

No one here really cares or can do anything.

[Dedrikski]

RIP BOZO

[bRad]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ⎛ PlamAtom ⎞:

Bhopping via console is Cheating, CS:GO Fair Play Guidelines clearly state:

Playing CS:GO together works best when everyone goes into a match with similar expectations. Players who choose to play on official CS:GO servers are expected to:

In all modes:
– Never cheat.
– Never grief or verbally abuse your teammates or opponents.
– Never use any automation for any reason.

https://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/fair-play-guidelines/

if console automation was banned, then alias' with 2 or more actions would not be allowed on sv_cheat 0 servers. that would include any script that buys multiple items with a single input.

the console script that OP uses are functionally no different than using a console alias to buy multiple items at the start of the round. the two scripts may accomplish different goals, but both are using a '1:many' alias to execute a certain set of functions that are allowable within the bounds of sv_cheat 0.

you are interpreting "automation" to mean something that it isn't.

[mft]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από ⎛ PlamAtom ⎞:

Bhopping via console is Cheating, CS:GO Fair Play Guidelines clearly state:

Playing CS:GO together works best when everyone goes into a match with similar expectations. Players who choose to play on official CS:GO servers are expected to:

In all modes:
– Never cheat.
– Never grief or verbally abuse your teammates or opponents.
– Never use any automation for any reason.

https://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/fair-play-guidelines/

kek by automation, valve meant scripts, that automate queues, matchmaking, etc etc
everything that is commonly known as "vertigo boosting" is exactly what is implied here

[Hazard FALSE OW BAN RIP SKINS]

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mass reporting is possible if you know the API endpoint for reporting a csgo profile. you can find that endpoint using wireshark and a bit of network analysis. just because the only "allowed" way to mass report requires a shared match does not mean it is impossible to mass report someone with a minimum amount of technical ability using wireshark and postman.

yes, bhopping via console is not cheating. if it was cheating then it would be possible to get VAC banned for bhop scripts. it is not possible to get vac banned for bhop scripts, only overwatch which again shows that overwatch is a broken system.

Nope that is not possible since that endpoint is the coordinator which checks if you were in that match and guess what happend to those cheeky boys who were using those report bots over two years ago, every steam account who was used for sending such reports was banned.

Bhopping via console is Cheating, CS:GO Fair Play Guidelines clearly state:

Playing CS:GO together works best when everyone goes into a match with similar expectations. Players who choose to play on official CS:GO servers are expected to:

In all modes:
– Never cheat.
– Never grief or verbally abuse your teammates or opponents.
– Never use any automation for any reason.

https://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/fair-play-guidelines/

alright everyone - whenever you see someone using a 'jump throw' smoke make sure you get both teams to report them so they get banned for automation!

[Krosiv]

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Nope that is not possible since that endpoint is the coordinator which checks if you were in that match and guess what happend to those cheeky boys who were using those report bots over two years ago, every steam account who was used for sending such reports was banned.

Bhopping via console is Cheating, CS:GO Fair Play Guidelines clearly state:

Playing CS:GO together works best when everyone goes into a match with similar expectations. Players who choose to play on official CS:GO servers are expected to:

In all modes:
– Never cheat.
– Never grief or verbally abuse your teammates or opponents.
– Never use any automation for any reason.

https://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/fair-play-guidelines/

alright everyone - whenever you see someone using a 'jump throw' smoke make sure you get both teams to report them so they get banned for automation!

You’re misunderstanding how you got banned. None of your console commands did it. You used a third party program to either cheat or skin change. Especially the fake DLore inventory. You got 30+ trade locked and dlore market didn’t budge a bit so you’re full of ♥♥♥♥ about everything.

[mft]

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alright everyone - whenever you see someone using a 'jump throw' smoke make sure you get both teams to report them so they get banned for automation!

You’re misunderstanding how you got banned. None of your console commands did it. You used a third party program to either cheat or skin change. Especially the fake DLore inventory. You got 30+ trade locked and dlore market didn’t budge a bit so you’re full of ♥♥♥♥ about everything.

The market isn’t supposed to move at all, because this dude clearly wasn’t trading them actively. Nothing changed for the active market for them.

[Fdexter]

Banned for spinning around in spawn my $$$.

[simon]

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The market isn’t supposed to move at all, because this dude clearly wasn’t trading them actively. Nothing changed for the active market for them.

He clearly doesn't own them. He could easily make his inventory public for every one to see. The items are now locked to his account and can't be traded or scammed so its pointless having them private but he cant make his items public because it would prove he is a liar.