Myth: VAC does not work. Valve doesn't do anything against cheaters.

[KillahInstinct]

Reality: The simple fact is, for all intents and purposes VAC does work. Even community measured metrics like steamdb[steamdb.info] (outdated) and steamid[steamid.uk] (delayed) show that, relative to the growth of Steam and the popular games, so have the amount of cheat bans. The real number is likely even bigger.

[FlintX]

xoxo a écrit :

FlintX a écrit :

It just proves my point and makes me repeat myself. Everyone is a potential cheater.

So report everyone is a win/win situation. Nothing will happen to clean players on overwatch and cheaters will get what they deserve.

Lol dude most people that you think are cheating end up in overwatch but they won't get banned because you have to be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and only people that rage hack will be punished. However, I think that since tf got introduced there are almost no cheaters on green trust and they end up with toxic people and on free2play.

Thats why you already have to report them since the warming. This way the entire match goes to overwacth and then investigators will be able to tell if they have turned the cheats on in specific rounds of if they were already cheating since from the start.

[76561198334930909]

FlintX a écrit :

xoxo a écrit :

Lol dude most people that you think are cheating end up in overwatch but they won't get banned because you have to be guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and only people that rage hack will be punished. However, I think that since tf got introduced there are almost no cheaters on green trust and they end up with toxic people and on free2play.

Thats why you already have to report them since the warming. This way the entire match goes to overwacth and then investigators will be able to tell if they have turned the cheats on in specific rounds of if they were already cheating since from the start.

when i report a cheater i usally just highlight all the check boxes on the ingame report feature, then i open the profile of the cheater and report them in profile to steam.

what would you recommend, should i start adding the report ID number into the steam profile report?

[FlintX]

Honor & Righteousness a écrit :

FlintX a écrit :

Thats why you already have to report them since the warming. This way the entire match goes to overwacth and then investigators will be able to tell if they have turned the cheats on in specific rounds of if they were already cheating since from the start.

when i report a cheater i usally just highlight all the check boxes on the ingame report feature, then i open the profile of the cheater and report them in profile to steam.

what would you recommend, should i start adding the report ID number into the steam profile report?

I recommend you download the replay of the match to confirm you suspects, then copy and paste its link while reporting the suspect profile. And if possible, list wich cheats he is using and give the details of the exact round and the moment that cheat is more visible. If Valve really does take those report seriously it might help to indetify the cheaters.

I originally only did that and then proceed to report confimed cheaters and very suspicious players. But after I saw the numbers of how many banned cheaters Valve publish in their reports I pretty much started to report everyone in sight. Nobody can guarantee if they are just some clean player who bought an account that a cheater leveled up, or if the account is just one of many that a cheater possess, or if it is a smuf cheating on a new account to help his friends rank up, or just some youtuber/streamer trying to impress his followers. In the end a cheater is a cheater.

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im with ya flintx feel the same way. my hope is they create a new counterstirke for 2020 that will not have cheats as excessive as this current CSGO. again i haven't played CS in some odd 10 years but its still the same game. sadly the cheaters are making it so obvious they are cheating.

for me its easy to pick out the cheater, im a good player, i know the score, when i see players droping scores like 13-3 i know they are cheating, cause at the level of experience we are you can't get scores like that unless your in a match vs all noobs, and when i am seeing a cheater on one team, almost always see a cheater on the other team countercheating.

we could rename this game COUNTER-CHEAT cause 9 times outta 10 thats what is going on, im pretty sure if we played on same server together we would be the 2 people outta 20 not engaging in cheats.

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Honor & Righteousness a écrit :

FlintX a écrit :

Thats why you already have to report them since the warming. This way the entire match goes to overwacth and then investigators will be able to tell if they have turned the cheats on in specific rounds of if they were already cheating since from the start.

when i report a cheater i usally just highlight all the check boxes on the ingame report feature, then i open the profile of the cheater and report them in profile to steam.

what would you recommend, should i start adding the report ID number into the steam profile report?

lol which means you do a false reports. I think you are abusing the report system by reporting them even for abusive voice and text chat and you have a red tf because of that. Seems like it's just karma and fair you end up against cheaters.

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allow me to explain to you why,

1. profile an picture report is to get the attention of the system that something is wrong with this account

2. the text report is cause they lie on the chat about how they are cheating, or have others stick up for them about cheating, again 9/10 people are using some kinda hack. if im not cheating that means they are.

3. i report griefing cause they grief all players by cheating they are hurting the game and normal players fun. and ultimately force people to get cheats to play the game.

4. i report wall hacking as usally everyone i report is showing signs of knowing you are around the corner and most are dumb an line up targets though walls, and some even fire.

5. most are using a aim bot instant trigger and or recoil mod and aim hack report is for just that.

6. other cheating is they are most likely in a 3rd party chat with others who are also cheating and that is the typical hacker group of trolling players we see in this game. they combind recoil mod with wall hacks and or ghost views to report to each other in game the locations of players when they are dead. this is the same as the offensive players who say nobody is cheating when we know better. it is a lie there are indeed alot of cheaters and they are trying to stick up for someone else in there group and themselves since they use hacks.

take a good look at how scared an aggressive the cheaters get when they know they have got caught and people are getting reported, damn shame people are not smart enough to just not cheat.

[76561198334930909]

why would i be in red trust, im a legit player reporting cheaters, and its ok the more cheaters i see the more i report, have you ever considered that maybe they like me with cheaters, cause i report them i can look past the lies an see the truth, go an take a deep look into my chat history you will see some startling information that will open your eye's up to a world you didn't know existed

[76561198992170752]

You know what? Go ahead and report everyone you play with. The only thing it does for you, is lower your trust factor, which is why you get so many cheaters in the first place, and also lower the weighting of your reports, so they basically get ignored. I never heard a more stupid thing in the cheating debate...

[76561198334930909]

lol i don't report everyone, just the cheaters, in the average game i report about 7 outta 20 people. typically prime time gaming there are more cheaters, and late night weekends after 1am. on a normal day you might get 1 or 2 cheaters.

now when im not playing against cheaters the games sorta boring, i don't cheat or hack, im just a decent gamer. If anything playing vs those cheaters has made me a much smarter player as i have to devise tricks to beat them.

if your a good player you know what im talking about. if your a cheater and you get killed you also know what im talking about. Some skill you just can't fake, others need hacks, some of us are just decent people playing a game for ♥♥♥♥♥ and giggles to test our might.


no hacks required here to play vs a hacker. i am sure to lose but at least i lose with honor!

[76561198992170752]

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lol i don't report everyone, just the cheaters, in the average game i report about 7 outta 20 people. typically prime time gaming there are more cheaters, and late night weekends after 1am. on a normal day you might get 1 or 2 cheaters.

now when im not playing against cheaters the games sorta boring, i don't cheat or hack, im just a decent gamer. If anything playing vs those cheaters has made me a much smarter player as i have to devise tricks to beat them.

if your a good player you know what im talking about. if your a cheater and you get killed you also know what im talking about. Some skill you just can't fake, others need hacks, some of us are just decent people playing a game for ♥♥♥♥♥ and giggles to test our might.


no hacks required here to play vs a hacker. i am sure to lose but at least i lose with honor!

Oops, that wasn't directed at you at all, but at the dude who stated in every answer if his that he reports everybody, because "everybody can be a cheater"... But still, 7 out of 20 people is WAY to much, there is no way, there are so many cheaters. Not even in non-prime matchmaking.

[76561198334930909]

lemme be honest with you stewie there are alot of cheaters in free games. typically they go unnoticed because most in the community are either cheating to or they don't really pay much attention.

when i was originally new to counter-strike back in 2001 i was like wow people are so good why can't i get a kill, then my eye's where opened to the world of cheaters and what they can do, this was kinda before youtube took off so people didn't have videos of others cheating.

but i got a candid look into what cheaters can do and it really opens your eye's up as to your own level of skill when you play vs those types of players. Also makes it super easy to spot them.

Now i know what your thing, and yes even i get random lucky headshot strife fire bullet that connects. But when you see a player instantly fire when the cross hair goes over your body , it is a known cheat, when you see a player xray vision wall hacking others knowing they are there without the mini map lite up its a wall hack.

now that guy picking people off with a mp5 what ever the standard issue ct gun is, from across the map , hitting people with insane accuracy, that is a recoil mod script. also considered a hack, we have rate of fire adjustments, recoil modifiers, all kinda low down dirty script cheats that bad players use to pretend they are good players.

you should educate yourself by watching some videos on this type of cheating, it will really open your eye's up to the bad mojo going on in your game.

[FlintX]

xoxo a écrit :

Honor & Righteousness a écrit :

allow me to explain to you why,

1. profile an picture report is to get the attention of the system that something is wrong with this account

2. the text report is cause they lie on the chat about how they are cheating, or have others stick up for them about cheating, again 9/10 people are using some kinda hack. if im not cheating that means they are.

3. i report griefing cause they grief all players by cheating they are hurting the game and normal players fun. and ultimately force people to get cheats to play the game.

4. i report wall hacking as usally everyone i report is showing signs of knowing you are around the corner and most are dumb an line up targets though walls, and some even fire.

5. most are using a aim bot instant trigger and or recoil mod and aim hack report is for just that.

6. other cheating is they are most likely in a 3rd party chat with others who are also cheating and that is the typical hacker group of trolling players we see in this game. they combind recoil mod with wall hacks and or ghost views to report to each other in game the locations of players when they are dead. this is the same as the offensive players who say nobody is cheating when we know better. it is a lie there are indeed alot of cheaters and they are trying to stick up for someone else in there group and themselves since they use hacks.

take a good look at how scared an aggressive the cheaters get when they know they have got caught and people are getting reported, damn shame people are not smart enough to just not cheat.

Thanks for confirming that you belong in red trust for abusing the system. I hope you enjoy playing against more cheaters in the future.

Xoxo, so you are basic saying that instead of banning the cheaters right away, Valve instead has a picnic zone where cheaters can gather and play Cheater VS Cheaters all they want.

Also your argument about griefing and offensive chat is pretty much invalid. I was watching some Elite Global matches through GOTV a few days ago and in quite a few of those games there were players spamming and trading insults with each other. Things like racism, general offenses and bad taste jokes. The same thing you see in lower ranks. You cannot deny the fact that most of the players in CSGO are toxic, either by voice, text chat or griefing. So why those guys are not in the red zone or being banned too? I guess I should had assumed they also were all cheaters with red trust factor and reported the profiles of every single one of them. Or now you gonna tell me that just because they are high in the ranks they are immune to bans and the general conduct rules?

Since there is this level toxicity in the high ranks you can bet it is much worse in the lower ranks. And since I am in the red trust zone for "spamming reports", then it is just one more reason for me to keep reporting everyone, since they are all cheters and toxic players. Because my chances of hitting a hack with a report are technically higher in the red zone. Which means more cheaters banned? Except that I'm not seeing the problem of so many cheaters being solved at all.

[FlintX]

HAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

First match of the day and guess what? I got a cheater with 3000 hours of game in the enemy team using wallhack and aimbot. Giving one taps on teammates behind the smokes more than once and following people behind walls. 3000 hours! I could link the demo of the match right now, but of course I would be banned again because of this nonsensical no "name and shame" rule. Cheates have no shame to use cheats, why should the community be fobidden to expose them?

Really, this is getting more and more pathetic. Cheaters have become so certain that they will rarely get punished that they’re even comfortable in using cheats shamelessly like that.

I'm done trying to play this game seriously. From now on I will just play for fun while trolling and annoying the cheaters to hell.

[FlintX]

C²C^Guyver |NZB| a écrit :

Yet, you're in-game, right now. What is pathetic is your lack of understanding of VAC and how it works.

EDIT:
...and trolling other players is not smart....two griefing bans = permanent ban.

Stop defending the cheaters and more reporting. Do you part.

[Hamless Hog]

FlintX a écrit :

C²C^Guyver |NZB| a écrit :

Yet, you're in-game, right now. What is pathetic is your lack of understanding of VAC and how it works.

EDIT:
...and trolling other players is not smart....two griefing bans = permanent ban.

Stop defending the cheaters and more reporting. Do you part.

how is he defending cheaters? isnt that what you are doing..?