bandar log and quickness blesses, all ages

[Zastaver]

so i was wondering considering bandar log has a spell that gives all magical sacred beings quickness, would it stack with a normal quickness bless or not?

[Red_Rob]

No, you can only have Quickness once from any source.

It will stack with a Swiftness bless, or the Haste Spell, however they don't allow you to attack more often like true Quickness.

[Zastaver]

so in essance because you can get army wide magic sacred quickness form a 1 perel spell

[1337Dude]

Now you see why I've been playing Bandar lately :p

[Zastaver]

i mean yea, the only people who get kinda dunked is MA bandar who have to spend more gems on 1S quick sacreds, it makes something like windgaurd, etherialness, and CM quickness a very very powerfull thing

[Reign_of_Error]

Don't get too excited about Celestial Music. It is army-wide but only affects sacreds which are magic beings. So it has no effect on Bandar's recruited sacreds (White Ones, Tiger Riders), only on summoned Gandharvas, Apsaras and the like, which are costly enough that they are rarely the bulk of an army.

[Zastaver]

yea but in EA and LA Bandar its alot better considering there cap and RA sacreds. MA bandar kinda gets shafted.

[Red_Rob]

LA Bandar doesn't get Celestial Music. They have been led astray by the Nagas and can no longer play the Music of the Gods.

Although if you are running the Dominions Enhanced mod, the Devala autocasts it in battles and can be summoned. That does mean waiting until Conjuration 8, so a Quickness bless might still be worthwhile if you don't want to wait that long.

[Zastaver]

well thats the main thing im enjoying about EA log at the moment, you dont realy need a bless for early expansion because of the built in awe and 4 atks per square, also newer tryed dom enhanced. whats some of the stuff it dose?

[Red_Rob]

Dominions Enhanced is a mod pack I put together combining a few mods together. It adds some new spells and items, along with more national spells for each nation. Bandar for example can summon Asuras and Garudas, amongst other new options. It also makes some of the weaker vanilla stuff cheaper or easier to access. Finally, it adds a few hand-picked nations that I feel gel well with the base game and have a similar feel. You can find it on the mods tab here on Steam.

[Morsigil]

I took Quickness and magic weapons on Bandar Log and won a standard free for all earlier this year. I took it dormant, even! Tiger riders expand fine out of the box and then explode once the bless is online. Quickness, magic weapons, and body ethereal/luck is a powerful combo in the early and mid game. I transitioned into Gandharvas after that, but the game ended around turn 50 because people weren't paying close enough attention to the thrones.

EA Kailasa doesn't have a great reason to go so high in Thau early on, and MA Bandar Log does but Celestial Music doesn't work on their recruitable sacreds.

[Zastaver]

@red_rob sounds like a decent reasion to learn how to install mods. it work well in single player as im a single player pleb.

[Red_Rob]

Sure, it works fine in single player.

There is a good guide to installing mods here - it was written for Dom4 but works equally well for Dom5: https://steamcommunity.com/app/259060/discussions/2/622954747288708361/

[Zastaver]

@red_rob, great mod and good fun, but it seems it has killed my ability to expand as Kalisa