Dominions 5

Dominions 5

Gunnar Jan 14, 2018 @ 4:37pm
Will adding a magic eye blind someone who already lost an eye?
My pretender lost an eye. He is human, so he usually would have two eyes.

If I put an eye on him, will he go blind, or will the game notice that he is missing an eye and put the magic eye there?

When I searched around, I heard contradicting information. Some claim it caused their unit to go blind, some claim it did not
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Vir027 Jan 14, 2018 @ 5:01pm 
If you're in SP at least (have never seen if MP has this, but I imagine it does), do it. If you don't like the result, go to menu and Redo turn from scratch. Do tell, though.
Last edited by Vir027; Jan 14, 2018 @ 5:02pm
Telos Jan 14, 2018 @ 5:33pm 
Yes, I'm pretty sure it will blind him. Don't do it! (Or at any rate, don't save game or hit end turn after you do.)

Reminds me of the "clever" idea of using eyes of aiming to improve one-eyed mages' precision. Doesn't work either...

EDIT: It looks like I'm wrong about the case where the eye-loss was caused by an injury, not by having another magic eye in place. If you have eye-loss due to having a magic eye, then (on a 2-eyed creature) a second magic eye will make you blind. If you instead have eye-loss due to getting poked in the eye in combat, apparently you can stick a magic eye in the socket without sacrificing your other eye. (Thanks to people downthread for pointing this out.)
Last edited by Telos; Jan 15, 2018 @ 3:13pm
applenta Jan 14, 2018 @ 5:40pm 
I think it doesn't make sense that you get the eye loss affliction when adding a magic eye, a morale loss from the excruciating pain perhaps, sure you have to take out your organic eye to make place for it, but the net eye loss should be zero, maybe some magic eye doesn't grant the bearer vision, but Eyes of Aiming, how in the world it grants precision without granting vision?
DasaKamov Jan 14, 2018 @ 6:06pm 
Originally posted by applenta:
I think it doesn't make sense that you get the eye loss affliction when adding a magic eye
I mean, "it's freaking magic" is an answer that can always be thrown out there when asking "why does this fantasy world have rule X?" ;)

You could explain it by saying that any Magic-Eye-Type artifact doesn't restore "normal" vision; rather, it grants the recepient a kind of "arcane sight" that makes them able to excel at a very specific sight-related task, but is useless for general purposes.

Think of the "Thernal Vision" from the "Predator" movies (or "Aliens versus Predator" video games), for example. The Thermal Vision is GREAT for seeing and targeting human foes from a distance, but you can't see jack sh...tuff of your surrounding environment. Anyone with that kind of vision would be running into walls and tripping over rocks if it were on all the time. ;)
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Gologon Jan 14, 2018 @ 7:03pm 
When I test that, it never cause blind. Each magical eyes need one eye socket, though.
Possibly some bugs are hiding in some case, but you should be safe otherwise.
wilson.max Jan 14, 2018 @ 7:23pm 
Originally posted by Gologon:
When I test that, it never cause blind. Each magical eyes need one eye socket, though.
Possibly some bugs are hiding in some case, but you should be safe otherwise.

Whoa, Golog, is that you?! Long time no see dude!

For those who don't know him, Golog is the single best Dominions tester I have ever known. He knows stuff NOBODY knows.
Swirler Jan 14, 2018 @ 8:12pm 
Originally posted by wilson.max:
Originally posted by Gologon:
When I test that, it never cause blind. Each magical eyes need one eye socket, though.
Possibly some bugs are hiding in some case, but you should be safe otherwise.

Whoa, Golog, is that you?! Long time no see dude!

For those who don't know him, Golog is the single best Dominions tester I have ever known. He knows stuff NOBODY knows.
What kind of stuff?
Gologon Jan 14, 2018 @ 8:55pm 
Originally posted by wilson.max:
Whoa, Golog, is that you?! Long time no see dude!
Oh yes, nice to meet you again! I changed my name from Desura era, because I accidentally take that name from this game's hero. I have no idea why I didn't notice. :steamfacepalm:

While I'm rather inactive in main community, I'm still managing and updating JP wiki. Recent growth of Japanese community makes me busy and satisfied well so far.
meglobob1 Jan 15, 2018 @ 1:02am 
Yes, I can confirm from experience it will blind them...I have done it at least twice without meaning too...doh!

Originally posted by Gologon:
While I'm rather inactive in main community, I'm still managing and updating JP wiki. Recent growth of Japanese community makes me busy and satisfied well so far.

Well done keep up the good work!

Are the Yomi, Jomon, Tien Chi nations popular in Japan?
Last edited by meglobob1; Jan 15, 2018 @ 1:04am
kristoffer  [developer] Jan 15, 2018 @ 1:14am 
If you have one missing eye (and have two eye sockets, like a regular human) you should not lose your other eye if you put an eye of aiming in the socket. However if you already have one magic eye installed or if you are a cyclops in the first place you will become blind. If this is not the case it is a bug and should be reported.
applenta Jan 15, 2018 @ 3:03am 
So, if that eyeloss affliction is cured, how would it look like?
Sentient_Toaster Jan 15, 2018 @ 3:10am 
Originally posted by applenta:
So, if that eyeloss affliction is cured, how would it look like?

Having a magic eye installed prevents curing the eyeloss affliction, until you lose the magic eye (which can happen if you get killed, but are either immortal or get raised as a mummy).
Gologon Jan 15, 2018 @ 3:34am 
Originally posted by meglobob1:
Yes, I can confirm from experience it will blind them...I have done it at least twice without meaning too...doh!

Though I have no idea why that happened, perhaps that is related to other bug. Have you seen some people complain they can't cure eye loss for no reason? I think that is fixed already, but if the game somehow failed to recognize a eye loss of some units, inserting magical eye into those units may cause problem.
Sadly, I myself never met those case. I wanted to test that myself...

Originally posted by meglobob1:
Well done keep up the good work!

Are the Yomi, Jomon, Tien Chi nations popular in Japan?

Thanks!
Yes, some people like to play in them, and that is including me.
Not everyone satisfied to current power level of those nations, but everyone admires devs because they so well researched a Japanese history/legends. Really, some of unit/spell is not well known even in Japan.

And for that I thanks you, Kristoffer! :steamhappy:
Red_Rob Jan 15, 2018 @ 7:40am 
Originally posted by Gologon:
While I'm rather inactive in main community, I'm still managing and updating JP wiki. Recent growth of Japanese community makes me busy and satisfied well so far.
Ahhh, that makes so much sense!

The JP wiki is my first stop if I need technical information about a spell that isn't in the manual (thanks Google Translate!), I always wondered who updated it.

Knowing it is the same Gologon that likes to pop in with the most obscure and arcane knowledge of the Dominions engine makes me even more likely to turn to it in future.:steamhappy:
forrestomintero Jan 15, 2018 @ 9:34am 
heres a question: can a unit with 3 misc slots have 3 eyes?
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