Fire Shield Problems

[KOZ1K]

Hi all,

I was playing Helheim tonight and sent blessed helhirdings out and found unexpected behaviour. They were blessed, and have Glamour (and high defense). I thought that would make my blessed fire shield activate often.

I was watching carefully and not seeing it happening during a battle so I bring up the detail log and just read that... None, nothing. It shows the weapon when the horsemen would hit, or when they enemy missed. But never Fire Shield. They are clearly blessed and do have the fire shield icon when right clicked... I watched a few battles to be sure and I just don't know why its not triggering.

Its not alot of damage at once, but I expected it to add up with how often the enemy would miss. I am not sure if an enemy missing due to glamour doesnt apply to fireshield, or something else I am missing.

For clarity the full bless is: Fire Shield, Blood Surge, Stygian Skin, Fire & Shock Res.

Thanks,

[TheDeadlyShoe]

I'm pretty sure no form of miss triggers Shields.

[Alias]

Repel, vine, awe, defense -negated attacks won't trigger Fire or Astral shield.

Mirror Image/Glamor is capable of negating the damage of Fire Shield. In fact, the damage of Fire Shield is pretty standard in that it gets a location, can crit, etc.

[Mount Nomad]

Fire Shield generally goes well on tankier troops that don't mind taking hits (giants, Agarthans, etc.). Matches up with Thick Skin, Fortitude, high health totals.

Helhirdings take the opposite approach to durability - they're almost impossible to hit in melee, especially with Quickness or a +Def passive bless. They're one of the few sacred troops where the Air Shield bless almost makes sense (the Air Shield bless never makes sense), as ranged attacks bypass the glamour and defense ratings.

Basically, if they're getting hit in melee without being completely swamped by enemies (or fighting Fateweavers), then ur doin' it wrong.

[KOZ1K]

Thanks Alias. TheDeadlyShoe and Mount Nomad. I was under the impressiong from the "Anyone trying to strike them will take damage from the fire" part of the text. I will look at other combos, Thanks!

[BoboYagga]

I think this is a little dumb. Shields add to the defense of a unit. In the meta, part of defense is successfully blocking or parrying an attack. (Dagger of parry) so why don't the effects of things like fire shield trigger? The enemy is clearly close enough to feel the heat.

Obvs, it's for balance. I understand that the elves don't really need any buff, but still. It makes sense to me.

Would also help abysian's. Could use a defense bless to great effect.