Does Strength make a difference for Trample?

[MORROGANDER]

I know that Size directly increase the damage of Trample, what about Strength?

[Zonk]

It doesn't.

[MORROGANDER]

Originally posted by Zonk:

It doesn't.

Its sad trample units can only do trample, a size 6 giant should be able to swing its giant arms too...

[Drithyl]

Originally posted by MORROGANDER:

Originally posted by Zonk:

It doesn't.

Its sad trample units can only do trample, a size 6 giant should be able to swing its giant arms too...

They do their regular attacks when faced against creatures of their same size or larger. As for swinging their giant arms, you can consider that a part of trampling. It's no longer really a targeted attack but a sweep that clears several smaller enemies at once!

[MORROGANDER]

Originally posted by Drithyl:

Originally posted by MORROGANDER:

Its sad trample units can only do trample, a size 6 giant should be able to swing its giant arms too...

They do their regular attacks when faced against creatures of their same size or larger. As for swinging their giant arms, you can consider that a part of trampling. It's no longer really a targeted attack but a sweep that clears several smaller enemies at once!

Trample damage feels too low for a size 6, 24 strength giant, 5+2*size= 17 damage, even my size 2 ghoul guards do 28 damage! maybe there are some hidden damage value that I don't know

[Slice]

size matters...at least twss :)

[DasaKamov]

Originally posted by MORROGANDER:

even my size 2 ghoul guards do 28 damage! maybe there are some hidden damage value that I don't know

Your Ghouls have inhuman strength AND are swinging huge halberds. A Trample is basically just running-into-someone-and body-checking-them really hard. ;)

Also note, from page 50 of the Manual, that trampling is an armor-piercing attack *and* does a minimum of 1 Damage, so it can be useful against Glamoured/Mirror-Illusioned foes.

[Alias]

Originally posted by MORROGANDER:

Originally posted by Drithyl:

They do their regular attacks when faced against creatures of their same size or larger. As for swinging their giant arms, you can consider that a part of trampling. It's no longer really a targeted attack but a sweep that clears several smaller enemies at once!

Trample damage feels too low for a size 6, 24 strength giant, 5+2*size= 17 damage, even my size 2 ghoul guards do 28 damage! maybe there are some hidden damage value that I don't know

Presuming equal attack, size6 trample will do more damage against a single target of 23 or more protection. Prior to that, the halberd will either do more damage, or be tied but its slashing +25% mod and dismembering coming on top. Against targets with slash-resist the trample is always better.

However, the trampling creature can often hit more than one target, three being the most likely density into a trampled square. Meaning it actually does damage x3. And this is not to say the trampler will hit just one square in the time a ghoul swings once, could be more.

[MORROGANDER]

Originally posted by Alias:

Originally posted by MORROGANDER:

Trample damage feels too low for a size 6, 24 strength giant, 5+2*size= 17 damage, even my size 2 ghoul guards do 28 damage! maybe there are some hidden damage value that I don't know

Presuming equal attack, size6 trample will do more damage against a single target of 23 or more protection. Prior to that, the halberd will either do more damage, or be tied but its slashing +25% mod and dismembering coming on top. Against targets with slash-resist the trample is always better.

However, the trampling creature can often hit more than one target, three being the most likely density into a trampled square. Meaning it actually does damage x3. And this is not to say the trampler will hit just one square in the time a ghoul swings once, could be more.

Gotta give my tramplers quickness for this!!!!!