Revenant

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How does everyone feel about these guys?

I personally think they are absolutely fantastic, in my current Yomi game, I love using them as research batteries, as well as an easily massable slave matrix communion (its a long story about how I got astral)

Combat wise, they are not horrible, Give them a staff of a necromancer, and they can spam summon undead and some other minor spells. ( a lot cheaper and easier to replace than the recruitables and upgradeables I might add)

Overall, I feel they are one of the greater and mostly underlooked spell. Though they are not as broken as they were when they costed a lot less and could summon copies of themselves

Also on a side note, I play singleplayer only, so I know these guys are probs not the best in mp.

[wilson.max]

They are sometimes a useful way of turning death gems into death casters, at a price a lot cheaper than empowerment, for nations which lack recruitable Death casters.

I'm a little puzzled why you are enthused about them as Yomi, given that Yomi has tons of recruitable D2 mages. Gold must be really tight for you if you'd rather spend 12 death gems than 65 gold. (Revenant + Staff = 18 gems; Namanari + Hannya Pact = 65 gold and 6 gems; difference = 12 gems.)

Note BTW that Revenants can still create copies of themselves, using a Skull Staff. For a nation like Marignon which has to break into death via a pretender (or lucky indies), possibly via cross-site paths like Dying Forest (N1 site, discoverable by indy tribal shamans, that produces death gems) this can be really great.

For pure research though you're better off forging Skull Mentors.

[boozermonkey]

Some like to go with C3T3 scales as Yomi so gold runs out fast. Agree that Skull Mentors are the way to go at what? Const. 6? Thats a long time before those come online given Yomi's research priorities. They will get to Ench. 3 early though for skelly spamming.

[nicknight7]

Skull mentors are construction 4 - another common research goal for Yomi for Dai Oni gear, and are better for pure research even before considering hammers.

Yomi has a huge amount of uses for death gems - darkness casts, skull mentors, skull staves, shikome; I have honestly never used a revenent on the nation, though on C'tis who hard rushes enchantment 5 I tend to spam them pretty hard early on for the RP boost.

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Some of this has to deal with sub-optimal plays, I never really played yomi much in dom4, and as such i'm not completly familar with playstyle, I just know from past experience that rev's were my dump summon for excessive death gems (for any nation that had easy acess to death), or if I had a high enough income for it to not matter too much.